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Alternet deserves some free advertising on my blog. It is a great site and recommend it to everyone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray for peace. and pray that we can somehow get the right wing screwballs that are now in control of America to see the light. Although i have no illusions that they ever will see the light, any light except that which they generate  nd give unto themselves in their rampant and extremist hypocrisy. The USA is being controlled by crazies. And their is no stopping them as they go about their death agneda for profits and political power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dec. 16, 2007.  1:37pm.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-2093354282286427900?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/2093354282286427900'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/2093354282286427900'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/12/oh-well.html' title='Oh Well...'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-6676980815683295868</id><published>2007-12-16T12:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-16T13:25:45.853-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;!-- start: new header --&gt; 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&lt;input name="title" value="Talk about wierd..." type="hidden"&gt; &lt;input name="comment" value="...Glen Beck is a Mormon, previously a Catholic. He went from weird Catholicism to even weirder Mormonism. Beck is one of the most vicious people in America and on this planet. His anger seems to know no boundaries. He hates everything and everyone who is different from him. IOW, he hates everyone and everthing that is not him, IOW he only loves himself.   So exactly how different is he as a Mormon than he was as a catholic; not very much. Beck is just another hater and very little different fromTim Russert, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Scalia, Alito, Rupert Murdoch, Thomas, Roberts, Michelle Malikin, Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Laura Ingraham, Peggy Noonan, Maureen Dowd and thousands of other haters who spew out their own inner violence.  Romney is no different. He is aligned with a strange religion but so too are all of the above. They are all brethren to others like LaHaye, Hagee, Dobson, Kennedy, and thousands of others, all of whom rule the roost at this time and under the aegis of George W. Bush and the Bush crime family, and the Pope of my religion, another screwball.  They unfortunately have all the power and will for as long as the American people keep the Boooshies and their ilk in office. This may last or it may pass. It is not for us to know the time or the place. This too may pass or it may not.   We more normal and more balanced people are in the clutches of these screwballs. Should we escape We must resolve to never let these crazies/ extremists ever get into this much power again. The onliest method we have at our disposal is the vote. If worst comes to worst we can take matters into our own hands and revolt, and in a variety of ways.  Were I to live that long I would support revolt, I won't live that long. And for that I am happy to go...    The wretched have turned this world and especially America into a war machine for their own ends. And they dare to call the rest of us the 'culture of death'. And how many times have we heard Bill O'Reilly use that line. That line is repeated as if on cue and is the brainchild of  Pope John Paul and Karl Rove. Talk about brothers under the skin, those two are joined at the brain.  As a Catholic I never thought I would be saying things such as this. But the Catholic religion has quite clearly gone over to the dark side, it long ago joined the most evil of politicians, namely Hitler and the Nazis and their Fascist brethren. All of whom are alive and well  and thriving in the Republican party.  The spirit of Catholicism, if it ever existed, is dead and buried under the mantle of the papacy and the College of Cardinals. If the true spirit exists it is with people such as myself and other Catholics who abhor what right wing Catholicism has become. We are the spirit of Catholicism or what is left of it, something along those lines as I'm not quite sure how to express what I feel. The true spirit of Catholicism exists within us.   The institutional of Catholicism rests with the Pope and his minions and they are legion. We of the true spirit of Catholicism are but a small number and possess no power, neither political nor monetary, at all; and that is the way it should be. If we have any power it is only in our words and our intentions to always seek to do the right thing. We are the true conservatives, we move slowly and very carefully and always pay attention to the thoughts and feelings of others.   We consider it a hallmark of decent/ proper behavior that we seek to hurt no one and only to add and enhance the family of man. We respect all members of the family of man, including lesbians and gays and Jews and Moslems and other Christians and others who are atheists and agnostics because we truly believe in the idea that we are all children of GOD. And that includes women, all women, even those who choose abortion. We do not condone abortion. I personally regard abortion as a womans right to choose and do not seek to strip women of that most personal of choices, the choice of how their bodies are used belongs only to them and God and no one else. I am only the judge of how my body is to be used and can judge no other person, man or woman. I choose that my body not be used in principle or in name to kill or harm others in any way. I am personally saddened by abortion becase I have never met a baby that I didn't feel some love for and a sense of loss for those who are stopped from becoming members of the family of man. I admit to not knowing much about abortion but then no man really can know that which only a women carrying a child knows about her individual child.  We leave it up to God to do the judging, we know that we are not up to that task and that only God is the judge. We abhor the sin of PRIDE and those who take God-like powers and roles unto themselves. It is written that the sin of PRIDE is the worst of all sins. It is the greatest/ worst sin of all and clearly the one to be most guarded against.  It is with stark clarity that Jesus' admonition, ...render unto caesar... and render unto God... now is totally undeniable and understandable. With that statement He warned about the evils of religion. He once again made His position quite clear when he said ...all that you need is within you and all about you. He said this when asked who should we follow. In effect He was saying we can follow what is already within us. It is like saying that we are hard wired to know what to do and we do not need to follow any religion or false prophet in order to know what to do to attain The Kingdom of Heaven.  IOW, our best instincts will tell us what to do to attain His Fathers Kingdom. Of course all organized religions are terrified of that simple yet totally profound statement. That statement exactly matches up with the concept that each of us is a child of God and made in His image and likeness(referring to our souls, not our bodies). It also matches up with the concept that we all have inalienable human rights, and that includes all of us even including every athiest and agnostic, every man and every woman, including gays and lesbians.   It also matches up with the idea/concept that we all have Free Will and the right to choose and the responsibility to choose. IOW, we, each of us are obligated to choose. It is our God given OBLIGATION to choose and for our choices we will be judged accordingly. And further more we will be judged by the only one who has the right to judge, God. We will NOT, NOT, NOT be judged by man made religions. NO power or authority has ever been given to any manmade religions to judge anyone. And all of those man made religions that judge are guilty of blasphemy, heresy and the sin of PRIDE. And that includes the Pope. He is no more scred than any other religious leader who place themselves abovethe rules of God and the teachings of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.   If one chooses of ones own free will to follow a man made religion one incurs the obligation to dtermine whether that man made religion has become heretical or blasphemous or Prideful or even to just to vainglorious. Sholud these conditions occur it is incumbent upon the followers of that religion to take appropriate action. That is one of the beauties of the various Protestant religions. They take it upon themselves to monitor their religious leaders and then to act approriately to curb any ecxcesses, including Prideful or even just simple vaingloroius behaviors. That is true except for the mega religions/ mega churches.  It seems to me that the little congregations come the closest to observing the will of God and the teachings of Jesus. The mega churches are and have become an abomination of excesses and powers and riches. Jesus never accrued any wealth or power unto himself. The mega churches are and act in the ways that are the exact opposite to the ways of Jesus.  All the thousand of years of man made religious machinnation is just that MAN made.   A poster to this site said that man made religions follow Paul and not Jesus. So far I can't corrobate that idea, but will continue to check it out.  For me I'll follow the liberal Jewish guy who lived some two thousand years ago and follow his teachings as He spoke clearly of peace and love. The hate coming from right wing religious groups, including the Catholic Church, my church, will no guide me as to how to live my life.  I will accept responsibility for how I have chosen to exercise my Free Will and live my life. I just don't know any other way. I will leave the Pope and his brethren George W. Bush of the Bush crime family to perpetrate their evils upon the world and I do not in any way support anything they do. As far as I am concerned they are doers of evil.   As far as I am concerned they are all going to rot in hell.  Religion ceases to be religion when it sells it self to and for politic and political power. I do not care one whit what the Pope CLAIMS the Blessed Virgin Mary said. My guess is that the source of the message was sent to test the Popes beliefs in the one true Jesus Christ. And the Popes, all of them, since 1917 have failed totally and miserbly. They just don't believe in the one true Jesus.  The Popes) agenda of death for some people is the true measure of what the Pope(s) believe. I will follow the one true Jesus, no false prophets of doom and gloom and death for some people would be acceptable to that Jesus, in so far as I know that Jesus.   If Armageddon is coming, if the end times are coming it is of no wonder given what the right wing religions of the USA have become and given themselves over to. The religions of George Bush and the Entire Republican Party is/are the religions of death. They will bring the end times unto the entire world or at least the USA part of the world.  At least one religion has  chosen to divroce itself from the evils of the Bush empire; that is the Methodist Church. All I can say is may God please bless the Methodist Church. It is the one shining beacon that has chosen to observe the words of the ture Jesus, not the George Bush who has claimed to be jesus(small j) when Jesus said to render unto caesar... and render unto God...   All religions must follow that admonition or it seems to me they will doom themselves and all their followers.  The Pope has chosen to do otherwise, to maintain his alignment with the Bushies and the Repub Party. This alignment occurred under the papacy of John Paul II and the Church has put him on the fast track for sainthood,. What a slap in the face to all the real and true saints throughout the ages. Their all     " type="hidden"&gt; &lt;input name="date" value="2007-12-16 10:17" type="hidden"&gt;   &lt;table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"&gt;  &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;   &lt;td&gt;        &lt;div style="margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 5px;"&gt;  &lt;a name="c"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;div class="comment_head"&gt;  &lt;div class="comment_full"&gt;   &lt;b&gt;Talk about wierd...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;div class="sca" style="padding-right: 5px; float: right;"&gt;       &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;span class="sca"&gt;Posted by: bobtr900 on Dec 16, 2007 10:17 AM          &lt;br /&gt;   Current rating: &lt;b&gt;Not yet rated&lt;/b&gt;    [&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt; = poor; &lt;b&gt;5&lt;/b&gt; = excellent]&lt;br /&gt;                 &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;             &lt;div id="dc" class="comment_full"&gt; ...Glen Beck is a Mormon, previously a Catholic. He went from weird Catholicism to even weirder Mormonism. Beck is one of the most vicious people in America and on this planet. His anger seems to know no boundaries. He hates everything and everyone who is different from him. IOW, he hates everyone and everthing that is not him, IOW he only loves himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So exactly how different is he as a Mormon than he was as a catholic; not very much. Beck is just another hater and very little different fromTim Russert, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Scalia, Alito, Rupert Murdoch, Thomas, Roberts, Michelle Malikin, Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Laura Ingraham, Peggy Noonan, Maureen Dowd and thousands of other haters who spew out their own inner violence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romney is no different. He is aligned with a strange religion but so too are all of the above. They are all brethren to others like LaHaye, Hagee, Dobson, Kennedy, and thousands of others, all of whom rule the roost at this time and under the aegis of George W. Bush and the Bush crime family, and the Pope of my religion, another screwball.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They unfortunately have all the power and will for as long as the American people keep the Boooshies and their ilk in office. This may last or it may pass.&lt;br /&gt;It is not for us to know the time or the place. This too may pass or it may not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We more normal and more balanced people are in the clutches of these screwballs. Should we escape We must resolve to never let these crazies/ extremists ever get into this much power again. The onliest method we have at our disposal is the vote. If worst comes to worst we can take matters into our own hands and revolt, and in a variety of ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Were I to live that long I would support revolt, I won't live that long. And for that I am happy to go... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The wretched have turned this world and especially America into a war machine for their own ends. And they dare to call the rest of us the 'culture of death'. And how many times have we heard Bill O'Reilly use that line. That line is repeated as if on cue and is the brainchild of Pope John Paul and Karl Rove. Talk about brothers under the skin, those two are joined at the brain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a Catholic I never thought I would be saying things such as this. But the Catholic religion has quite clearly gone over to the dark side, it long ago joined the most evil of politicians, namely Hitler and the Nazis and their Fascist brethren. All of whom are alive and well and thriving in the Republican party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The spirit of Catholicism, if it ever existed, is dead and buried under the mantle of the papacy and the College of Cardinals. If the true spirit exists it is with people such as myself and other Catholics who abhor what right wing Catholicism has become. We are the spirit of Catholicism or what is left of it, something along those lines as I'm not quite sure how to express what I feel. The true spirit of Catholicism exists within us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The institutional of Catholicism rests with the Pope and his minions and they are legion. We of the true spirit of Catholicism are but a small number and possess no power, neither political nor monetary, at all; and that is the way it should be. If we have any power it is only in our words and our intentions to always seek to do the right thing. We are the true conservatives, we move slowly and very carefully and always pay attention to the thoughts and feelings of others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We consider it a hallmark of decent/ proper behavior that we seek to hurt no one and only to add and enhance the family of man. We respect all members of the family of man, including lesbians and gays and Jews and Moslems and other Christians and others who are atheists and agnostics because we truly believe in the idea that we are all children of GOD. And that includes women, all women, even those who choose abortion. We do not condone &lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;abortion. I personally regard abortion as a womans right to choose and do not seek to strip women of that most personal of choices, the choice of how their bodies are used belongs only to them and God and no one else. I am only the judge of how my body is to be used and can judge no other person, man or woman. I choose that my body not be used in principle or in name to kill or harm others in any way. I am personally saddened by abortion becase I have never met a baby that I didn't feel some love for and a sense of loss for those who are stopped from becoming members of the family of man. I admit to not knowing much about abortion but then no man really can know that which only a women carrying a child knows about her individual child.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We leave it up to God to do the judging, we know that we are not up to that task and that only God is the judge. We abhor the sin of PRIDE and those who take God-like powers and roles unto themselves. It is written that the sin of PRIDE is the worst of all sins. It is the greatest/ worst sin of all and clearly the one to be most guarded against.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is with stark clarity that Jesus' admonition, ...render unto caesar... and render unto God... now is totally undeniable and understandable. With that statement He warned about the evils of religion. He once again made His position quite clear when he said ...all that you need is within you and all about you. He said this when asked who should we follow. In effect He was saying we can follow what is already within us. It is like saying that we are hard wired to know what to do and we do not need to follow any religion or false prophet in order to know what to do to attain The Kingdom of Heaven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IOW, our best instincts will tell us what to do to attain His Fathers Kingdom. Of course all organized religions are terrified of that simple yet totally profound statement. That statement exactly matches up with the concept that each of us is a child of God and made in His image and likeness(referring to our souls, not our bodies). It also matches up with the concept that we all have inalienable human rights, and that includes all of us even including every athiest and agnostic, every man and every woman, including gays and lesbians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It also matches up with the idea/concept that we all have Free Will and the right to choose and the responsibility to choose. IOW, we, each of us are obligated to choose. It is our God given OBLIGATION to choose and for our choices we will be judged accordingly. And further more we will be judged by the only one who has the right to judge, God. We will NOT, NOT, NOT be judged by man made religions. NO power or authority has ever been given to any manmade religions to judge anyone. And all of those man made religions that judge are guilty of blasphemy, heresy and the sin of PRIDE. And that includes the Pope. He is no more scred than any other religious leader who place themselves abovethe rules of God and the teachings of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one chooses of ones own free will to follow a man made religion one incurs the obligation to dtermine whether that man made religion has become heretical or blasphemous or Prideful or even to just to vainglorious. Sholud these conditions occur it is incumbent upon the followers of that religion to take appropriate action. That is one of the beauties of the various Protestant religions. They take it upon themselves to monitor their religious leaders and then to act approriately to curb any ecxcesses, including Prideful or even just simple vaingloroius behaviors. That is true except for the mega religions/ mega churches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that the little congregations come the closest to observing the will of God and the teachings of Jesus. The mega churches are and have become an abomination of excesses and powers and riches. Jesus never accrued any wealth or power unto himself. The mega churches are and act in the ways that are the exact opposite to the ways of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All the thousand of years of man made religious machinnation is just that MAN made.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A poster to this site said that man made religions follow Paul and not Jesus. So far I can't corrobate that idea, but will continue to check it out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me I'll follow the liberal Jewish guy who lived some two thousand years ago and follow his teachings as He spoke clearly of peace and love. The hate coming from right wing religious groups, including the Catholic Church, my church, will no guide me as to how to live my life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will accept responsibility for how I have chosen to exercise my Free Will and live my life. I just don't know any other way. I will leave the Pope and his brethren George W. Bush of the Bush crime family to perpetrate their evils upon the world and I do not in any way support anything they do. As far as I am concerned they are doers of evil. As far as I am concerned they are all going to rot in hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion ceases to be religion when it sells it self to and for politic and political power. I do not care one whit what the Pope CLAIMS the Blessed Virgin Mary said. My guess is that the source of the message was sent to test the Popes beliefs in the one true Jesus Christ. And the Popes, all of them, since 1917 have failed totally and miserbly. They just don't believe in the one true Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Popes) agenda of death for some people is the true measure of what the Pope(s) believe. I will follow the one true Jesus, no false prophets of doom and gloom and death for some people would be acceptable to that Jesus, in so far as I know that Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Armageddon is coming, if the end times are coming it is of no wonder given what the right wing religions of the USA have become and given themselves over to. The religions of George Bush and the Entire Republican Party is/are the religions of death. They will bring the end times unto the entire world or at least the USA part of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At least one religion has chosen to divroce itself from the evils of the Bush empire; that is the Methodist Church. All I can say is may God please bless the Methodist Church. It is the one shining beacon that has chosen to observe the words of the ture Jesus, not the George Bush who has claimed to be jesus(small j) when Jesus said to render unto caesar... and render unto God...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All religions must follow that admonition or it seems to me they will doom themselves and all their followers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pope has chosen to do otherwise, to maintain his alignment with the Bushies and the Repub Party. This alignment occurred under the papacy of John Paul II and the Church has put him on the fast track for sainthood,. 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Please limit it to 4,000 characters. The content that would be excluded is shown in red below.&lt;/form&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div id="centerright" style="margin-left: 11px;"&gt; &lt;form action="/blogs/video/70372/?comments=post" method="post" name="comment_post" id="comment_post"&gt; &lt;input name="storyID" value="70372" type="hidden"&gt; &lt;input name="parentID" value="0" type="hidden"&gt; &lt;input name="title" value="Talk about wierd..." type="hidden"&gt; &lt;input name="comment" value="...Glen Beck is a Mormon, previously a Catholic. He went from weird Catholicism to even weirder Mormonism. Beck is one of the most vicious people in America and on this planet. His anger seems to know no boundaries. He hates everything and everyone who is different from him. IOW, he hates everyone and everthing that is not him, IOW he only loves himself.   So exactly how different is he as a Mormon than he was as a catholic; not very much. Beck is just another hater and very little different fromTim Russert, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Scalia, Alito, Rupert Murdoch, Thomas, Roberts, Michelle Malikin, Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Laura Ingraham, Peggy Noonan, Maureen Dowd and thousands of other haters who spew out their own inner violence.  Romney is no different. He is aligned with a strange religion but so too are all of the above. They are all brethren to others like LaHaye, Hagee, Dobson, Kennedy, and tens of thousands of others, all of whom rule the roost at this time and under the aegis of George W. Bush and the Bush crime family, and the Pope of my religion, another screwball.  They unfortunately have all the power and will for as long as the American people keep the Boooshies and their ilk in office. This may last or it may pass. It is not for us to know the time or the place. This too may pass or it may not.   We more normal and more balanced people are in the clutches of these screwballs. Should we escape We must resolve to never let these crazies/ extremists ever get into this much power again. The onliest method we have at our disposal is the vote. If worst comes to worst we can take matters into our own hands and revolt, and in a variety of ways.  Were I to live that long I would support revolt, I won't live that long. And for that I am happy to go...    The wretched have turned this world and especially America into a war machine for their own ends. And they dare to call the rest of us the 'culture of death'. And how many times have we heard Bill O'Reilly use that line. That line is repeated as if on cue and is the brainchild of  Pope John Paul and Karl Rove. Talk about brothers under the skin, those two are joined at the brain.  As a Catholic I never thought I would be saying things such as this. But the Catholic religion has quite clearly gone over to the dark side, it long ago joined the most evil of politicians, namely Hitler and the Nazis and their Fascist brethren. All of whom are alive and well  and thriving in the Republican party.  The spirit of Catholicism, if it ever existed, is dead and buried under the mantle of the papacy and the College of Cardinals.   It is with stark clarity that Jesus' admonition, ...render unto caesar... and render unto God... now is totally undeniable and understandable. With that statement He warned about the evils of religion. He once again made His position quite clear when he said ...all that you need is within you and all about you. He said this when asked who should we follow. In effect He was saying we can follow what is already within us. It is like saying that we are hard wired to know what to do and we do not need to follow any religion or false prophet in order to know what to do to attain The Kingdom of Heaven.  IOW, our best instincts will tell us what to do to attain His Fathers Kingdom. Of course all organized religions are terrified of that simple yet totally profound statement. That statement exactly matches up with the concept that each of us is a child of God and made in His image and likeness(referring to our souls, not our bodies). It also matches up with the concept that we all have inalienable human rights, and that includes all of us even including every athiest and agnostic, every man and every woman, including gays and lesbians.   It also matches up with the idea/concept that we all have Free Will and the right to choose and the responsibility to choose. IOW, we, each of us are obligated to choose. It is our God given OBLIGATION to choose and for our choices we will be judged accordingly. And further more we will be judged by the only one who has the right to judge, God. We will NOT, NOT, NOT be judged by man made religions. NO power or authority has ever been given to any manmade religions to judge anyone. And all of those man made religions that judge are guilty of blasphemy, heresy and the sin of PRIDE. And that includes the Pope. He is no more scred than any other religious leader who place themselves abovethe rules of God and the teachings of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.   If one chooses of ones own free will to follow a man made religion one incurs the obligation to dtermine whether that man made religion has become heretical or blasphemous or Prideful or even to just to vainglorious. Sholud these conditions occur it is incumbent upon the followers of that religion to take appropriate action. That is one of the beauties of the various Protestant religions. They take it upon themselves to monitor their religious leaders and then to act approriately to curb any ecxcesses, including Prideful or even just simple vaingloroius behaviors. That is true except for the mega religions/ mega churches.  It seems to me that the little congregations come the closest to observing the will of God and the teachings of Jesus. The mega churches are and have become an abomination of excesses and powers and riches. Jesus never accrued any wealth or power unto himself. The mega churches are and act in the ways that are the exact opposite to the ways of Jesus.  All the thousand of years of man made religious machinnation is just that MAN made.   A poster to this site said that man made religions follow Paul and not Jesus. So far I can't corrobate that idea, but will continue to check it out.  For me I'll follow the liberal Jewish guy who lived some two thousand years ago and follow his teachings as He spoke clearly of peace and love. The hate coming from right wing religious groups, including the Catholic Church, my church, will no guide me as to how to live my life.  I will accept responsibility for how I have chosen to exercise my Free Will and live my life. I just don't know any other way. I will leave the Pope and his brethren George W. Bush of the Bush crime family to perpetrate their evils upon the world and I do not in any way support anything they do. As far as I am concerned they are doers of evil.   As far as I am concerned they are all going to rot in hell.  Religion ceases to be religion when it sells it self to and for politic and political power. I do not care one whit what the Pope CLAIMS the Blessed Virgin Mary said. My guess is that the source of the message was sent to test the Popes beliefs in the one true Jesus Christ. And the Popes, all of them, since 1917 have failed totally and miserbly. They just don't believe in the one true Jesus.  The Popes) agenda of death for some people is the true measure of what the Pope(s) believe. I will follow the one true Jesus, no false prophets of doom and gloom and death for some people would be acceptable to that Jesus, in so far as I know that Jesus.   If Armageddon is coming, if the end times are coming it is of no wonder given what the right wing religions of the USA have become and given themselves over to. The religions of George Bush and the Entire Republican Party is/are the religions of death. They will bring the end times unto the entire world or at least the USA part of the world.  At least one religion has  chosen to divroce itself from the evils of the Bush empire; that is the Methodist Church. All I can say is may God please bless the Methodist Church. It is the one shining beacon that has chosen to observe the words of the ture Jesus, not the George Bush who has claimed to be jesus(small j) when Jesus said to render unto caesar... and render unto God...   All religions must follow that admonition or it seems to me they will doom themselves and all their followers.  The Pope has chosen to do otherwise, to maintain his alignment with the Bushies and the Repub Party. This alignment occurred under the papacy of John Paul II and the Church has put him on the fast track for sainthood,. What a slap in the face to all the real and true saints throughout the ages. Their all     " type="hidden"&gt; &lt;input name="date" value="2007-12-16 08:52" type="hidden"&gt;   &lt;table border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"&gt;  &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;   &lt;td&gt;        &lt;div style="margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 5px;"&gt;  &lt;a name="c"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;div class="comment_head"&gt;  &lt;div class="comment_full"&gt;   &lt;b&gt;Talk about wierd...&lt;/b&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;div class="sca" style="padding-right: 5px; float: right;"&gt;       &lt;/div&gt;   &lt;span class="sca"&gt;Posted by: bobtr900 on Dec 16, 2007  8:52 AM          &lt;br /&gt;   Current rating: &lt;b&gt;Not yet rated&lt;/b&gt;    [&lt;b&gt;1&lt;/b&gt; = poor; &lt;b&gt;5&lt;/b&gt; = excellent]&lt;br /&gt;                 &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;             &lt;div id="dc" class="comment_full"&gt; ...Glen Beck is a Mormon, previously a Catholic. He went from weird Catholicism to even weirder Mormonism. Beck is one of the most vicious people in America and on this planet. His anger seems to know no boundaries. He hates everything and everyone who is different from him. IOW, he hates everyone and everthing that is not him, IOW he only loves himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So exactly how different is he as a Mormon than he was as a catholic; not very much. Beck is just another hater and very little different fromTim Russert, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Scalia, Alito, Rupert Murdoch, Thomas, Roberts, Michelle Malikin, Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Laura Ingraham, Peggy Noonan, Maureen Dowd and thousands of other haters who spew out their own inner violence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Romney is no different. He is aligned with a strange religion but so too are all of the above. They are all brethren to others like LaHaye, Hagee, Dobson, Kennedy, and tens of thousands of others, all of whom rule the roost at this time and under the aegis of George W. Bush and the Bush crime family, and the Pope of my religion, another screwball.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They unfortunately have all the power and will for as long as the American people keep the Boooshies and their ilk in office. This may last or it may pass.&lt;br /&gt;It is not for us to know the time or the place. This too may pass or it may not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We more normal and more balanced people are in the clutches of these screwballs. Should we escape We must resolve to never let these crazies/ extremists ever get into this much power again. The onliest method we have at our disposal is the vote. If worst comes to worst we can take matters into our own hands and revolt, and in a variety of ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Were I to live that long I would support revolt, I won't live that long. And for that I am happy to go... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The wretched have turned this world and especially America into a war machine for their own ends. And they dare to call the rest of us the 'culture of death'. And how many times have we heard Bill O'Reilly use that line. That line is repeated as if on cue and is the brainchild of Pope John Paul and Karl Rove. Talk about brothers under the skin, those two are joined at the brain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a Catholic I never thought I would be saying things such as this. But the Catholic religion has quite clearly gone over to the dark side, it long ago joined the most evil of politicians, namely Hitler and the Nazis and their Fascist brethren. All of whom are alive and well and thriving in the Republican party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The spirit of Catholicism, if it ever existed, is dead and buried under the mantle of the papacy and the College of Cardinals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is with stark clarity that Jesus' admonition, ...render unto caesar... and render unto God... now is totally undeniable and understandable. With that statement He warned about the evils of religion. He once again made His position quite clear when he said ...all that you need is within you and all about you. He said this when asked who should we follow. In effect He was saying we can follow what is already within us. It is like saying that we are hard wired to know what to do and we do not need to follow any religion or false prophet in order to know what to do to attain The Kingdom of Heaven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IOW, our best instincts will tell us what to do to attain His Fathers Kingdom. Of course all organized religions are terrified of that simple yet totally profound statement. That statement exactly matches up with the concept that each of us is a child of God and made in His image and likeness(referring to our souls, not our bodies). It also matches up with the concept that we all have inalienable human rights, and that includes all of us even including every athiest and agnostic, every man and every woman, including gays and lesbians.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It also matches up with the idea/concept that we all have Free  &lt;span style="color: red;"&gt;Will and the right to choose and the responsibility to choose. IOW, we, each of us are obligated to choose. It is our God given OBLIGATION to choose and for our choices we will be judged accordingly. And further more we will be judged by the only one who has the right to judge, God. We will NOT, NOT, NOT be judged by man made religions. NO power or authority has ever been given to any manmade religions to judge anyone. And all of those man made religions that judge are guilty of blasphemy, heresy and the sin of PRIDE. And that includes the Pope. He is no more scred than any other religious leader who place themselves abovethe rules of God and the teachings of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one chooses of ones own free will to follow a man made religion one incurs the obligation to dtermine whether that man made religion has become heretical or blasphemous or Prideful or even to just to vainglorious. Sholud these conditions occur it is incumbent upon the followers of that religion to take appropriate action. That is one of the beauties of the various Protestant religions. They take it upon themselves to monitor their religious leaders and then to act approriately to curb any ecxcesses, including Prideful or even just simple vaingloroius behaviors. That is true except for the mega religions/ mega churches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that the little congregations come the closest to observing the will of God and the teachings of Jesus. The mega churches are and have become an abomination of excesses and powers and riches. Jesus never accrued any wealth or power unto himself. The mega churches are and act in the ways that are the exact opposite to the ways of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All the thousand of years of man made religious machinnation is just that MAN made.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A poster to this site said that man made religions follow Paul and not Jesus. So far I can't corrobate that idea, but will continue to check it out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me I'll follow the liberal Jewish guy who lived some two thousand years ago and follow his teachings as He spoke clearly of peace and love. The hate coming from right wing religious groups, including the Catholic Church, my church, will no guide me as to how to live my life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will accept responsibility for how I have chosen to exercise my Free Will and live my life. I just don't know any other way. I will leave the Pope and his brethren George W. Bush of the Bush crime family to perpetrate their evils upon the world and I do not in any way support anything they do. As far as I am concerned they are doers of evil. As far as I am concerned they are all going to rot in hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion ceases to be religion when it sells it self to and for politic and political power. I do not care one whit what the Pope CLAIMS the Blessed Virgin Mary said. My guess is that the source of the message was sent to test the Popes beliefs in the one true Jesus Christ. And the Popes, all of them, since 1917 have failed totally and miserbly. They just don't believe in the one true Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Popes) agenda of death for some people is the true measure of what the Pope(s) believe. I will follow the one true Jesus, no false prophets of doom and gloom and death for some people would be acceptable to that Jesus, in so far as I know that Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Armageddon is coming, if the end times are coming it is of no wonder given what the right wing religions of the USA have become and given themselves over to. The religions of George Bush and the Entire Republican Party is/are the religions of death. They will bring the end times unto the entire world or at least the USA part of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At least one religion has chosen to divroce itself from the evils of the Bush empire; that is the Methodist Church. All I can say is may God please bless the Methodist Church. It is the one shining beacon that has chosen to observe the words of the ture Jesus, not the George Bush who has claimed to be jesus(small j) when Jesus said to render unto caesar... and render unto God...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All religions must follow that admonition or it seems to me they will doom themselves and all their followers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pope has chosen to do otherwise, to maintain his alignment with the Bushies and the Repub Party. This alignment occurred under the papacy of John Paul II and the Church has put him on the fast track for sainthood,. What a slap in the face to all the real and true saints throughout the ages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their all&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;p class="item"&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;      &lt;/div&gt;     &lt;input name="edit" value="Edit Comment" type="submit"&gt;   &lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;  &lt;/form&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;!-- start: footer --&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-1371896524859057025?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/1371896524859057025'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/1371896524859057025'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/12/talk-about-wierd.html' title='Talk about wierd...'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-6266274209502228152</id><published>2007-12-16T12:09:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-16T12:23:38.570-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Big Transfer...</title><content type='html'>...at least that is what I call it. I am going to transfer an item/note from Notepad2 into this blog post. So here goes.MY Blogs and Posts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am spending so much time posting on Alternet, Salon.com, HuffPo, Mojo and some other sites that I usually neglect my blog. I just don't have the energy to create the same thing or nearly the same thing twice. So in order to get my oh so fine words, I'm joking I am much more humble than to believe that, into my blog I am trying to learn to use Notepad2, a tool that I have just acquirded, a feebie becuase i can't afford anything else, and am triying to use it. So here goes nothing. I hope I can make this tool work, as i really don't know what I am doing. Now I am going to try to transfer this little item to my blog. Here goes...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WOW, it worked, all it took was to use COPY and then PASTE. I wonder why I didn't learn to use these tools about ten years ago. And especially given the fact that i have been on the internet since the late 80's. I guess as smart as I think I am just maybe I am not so smart, as i think i am. Not so smart at all. I neede a good dose of humility and a coming down to earth. Now if George Bush and the Pope and the Catholic fundies and the evangelical fundies would also learn some humility the world would be a much better and safer place to live. But I do not see any humility on the horizon for the aforementioned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amazing things, these computers. Now I'll try to type in to Notepad2 a much bigger document, one that is going to be posted to Alternet and to this blog. Good luck to me. This may take awhile.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-6266274209502228152?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6266274209502228152'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6266274209502228152'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/12/big-transfer.html' title='The Big Transfer...'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-6786482243050833641</id><published>2007-12-16T12:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-12-16T12:09:36.917-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hopefully this note/item...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-6786482243050833641?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6786482243050833641'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6786482243050833641'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/12/hopefully-this-noteitem.html' title='Hopefully this note/item...'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-8134716600174265672</id><published>2007-11-24T12:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-11-24T16:54:31.516-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Book of Questions, Questions and more Questions</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have so many questions. Questions, Questions and more questions. I have so many questions that they could fill a book. So I guess it would be okay to call it My Book of Questions.  Or maybe  A Book of Questions. I have far more questions than I have answers, understandings or conclusions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder how is it that killing for oil profits and war profits is seemingly okay for the right wingers even though the commandment says Thou Shalt Not Kill. But if your a Republican looking for profits and political power such killing is okay? And if you are a member of the religious right wing(ers) it is perfectly okay for you to belong to that political party of killers for profits. In their world profits seem to trump the Laws of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My take on the situation is that killing is forbidden by God, and that there is absolutely no justification for killing of any kind. And when a group of people gather themselves into a monolithic group and go about the business of killing of others via their group warfare upon the welfare of others, shall we call them victims/innocents and to do it because they have oil their can be no justification for their "Culture of Death" for oil and war profits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So in reality they break two laws of God, Thou Shalt Not Kill and Thou Shalt Not Steal. These groups are the Republican Party and the Catholic Church(Catholic fundamentalists) and the evangelical fundamentalists. Though they try to hide their agenda behind the artificial argument of  Pro-life and family values it is still killing for profits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where Jesus here today and walking the planet  He would forbid their death for profits agenda. He would forbid their wars and demand diplomacy. I seem to think Jesus would say diplomacy for peace is okay while war for peace is forbidden. He would wave his hand and stop the right wingers wars for oil profits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Saddam is not killing for oil control, he is dead. They are killing for oil control. So shouldn't they be dead as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some of the threads that run through my mind are the ones that circle around the Blessed Virgin Mary and her statements to the three children at Fatima. If I understand theologians correctly the blessed Virgin spoke about the death of a Pope, the high level scandals within the Catholic Church and some threat coming out of Russia. But Russia provides much of Europe with their natural gas for heating homes and buildings and so why would Russia want to threaten this huge source of income from gas sales.   So in the event of a NWO does the Church expect to rule Europe and threaten Russia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thought is that Christ was hung on the Cross and blacks in the south were hung from the lynching trees. Coin from Union Theological Seminary posits this idea. Will Christ's next coming be as a black man. And do all those innocents who die  in the Republican Party oil wars die to pay for our sins, just as Christ died to pay for our sins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Questions - Questions - Questions&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many Questions and very few answers; but then it is not for us to know the time or the place... Except for George Bush and his Dispensationalist/ Armageddonist friends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush and all of his cronies in the corporate world and the neocon world and the right wing religious world are all killers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thou shalt not kill...but they kill. Thou shalt not steal...and they steal. Thou shalt not lie...but they lie and lie and lie. And yet they either do not see or they see and just go ahead and do their foul evil deeds anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ever since WWII and the founding of the CIA the USA government has been commiting atrocities and killing people all over the world. the first such event might have been Eisenhowers use of the CIA to overthrow the democratically elected and apparently very popular leader of Iran Dr. Mohammed Mossadeq/ Mossadegh/Mossaddegh. This was done at the behest of the British government and the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company known today as British Petroleum aka BP. The Iranian people have never gotten over that atrocity. Wikipedia spells it all out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking of Wikipedia, the right wingers just hate Wikipedia because it quickly and easily shows all the world what they have done and prefer to keep hidden. The right wingers complain that Wikipedia can be easily manipulated to say anything. That was once and to a certain extent true. But when a program was written to show who was doing the foul evil deeds of manipulating Wikipedai it was discovered that ALL of the manipulations and illegal entries put into Wiki was done by, yup you guessed it, right wingers. Other than the right wing foul evil deeds a study of Wikipedia revealed that it was as accurate as the highly respected and world renowned Encyclopedia Britannica.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have noticed two manipulations of Wikipedia. Dick Morris' site was altered to show that he was a consultant to the Calderon people, when initially it showed no such thing. I learned that Dick Morris had done his Republican Party foul evil deeds from a report on Democracy Now. org who reported this situation which was discovered by Greg whats-his-name, a BBC stringer/ reporter, who was the one who brought this situation to the publics attention in the first place. Calderon stole the election from Mr. Manuel Lopez-Obrador via help from Dick Morris who used the exact same tactics that the Republican Party's Karl Rove used to corrupt our US elections and put Gorge Bush in office. They used smear and scare/fear mongering tactics to put dubya into office. The same tactics were employed to put Calderon into office and the impoverished Mexican people continue to suffer at the hands of the wealthy in Mexico and the wealthy/corporate interests in America. And what further amazes me is that the Pope is a part of the Republican Party machine. Right wing fundamentalist Catholics in America provide cover for the foul evil machinations of the Republican Party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It continuously amazes me that the Pope (s)of the Catholic Church, my church, would even allow themselves to be a part of this Republican Party cabal of horrors, but the Popes do. I sent an email to Pope John Paul II asking him to stop involving himself in American politics. Six weeks later he made a public statement denying any such involvement. But we all know he was lying because just four months earlier he had threatened to excommunicate Sen. Kerry if he won the 2004 presidential election. Needless to say Kerry folded under the pressure and just gave up easily.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No religion/ religious leader should ever step into the slime of American politics but the present Pope and the previous Pope have done just that. As the fortunes and corruptions of the Republican Party go so too will go the Catholic Church. What a shame, but then Jesus warned against such doings and the Popes know it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh Yes, speaking of the BBC, Pat Robertson just hates the BBC and for the same reasons the right wingers hate Wikipedia. Both organizations report the truth. Right wingers want to carry out their foul evil deeds under the guise of national security and other strategems of secrecy. They cringe from the light of day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Absolute power corrupt absolutely and the Republicans are perfect examples.  Money is the rot of all evil, and the Republicans are proof of that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All I hear from right wingers is anger and hate which they constantly spew out onto the American scene. It's not far below the surface on EWTN, the Catholic cable channel. This has been going on since Pope John Paul II put Reagan into the WH. It has gotten very loud and very strong since then and has become full blown under the current administration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church aligned itself with Hitler and the Nazi Party which tried to end democracy. Now the Church is aligned with Bush and the Republican Party and they are once again trying to put an end to democracy. Scalia, a staunch Catholic and Republican has called for and advocated the end of the rule of law and the end of democracy in America. What could be clearer than that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Time will reveal all.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-8134716600174265672?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/8134716600174265672'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/8134716600174265672'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/11/book-of-questions-questions-and-more.html' title='Book of Questions, Questions and more Questions'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-6168160406295812050</id><published>2007-11-21T17:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-11-21T20:22:06.335-05:00</updated><title type='text'>N-W-O,  New World Order</title><content type='html'>Dear All.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You may have had the expeience, I just had it again,  where you go to sleep and it seems that your brain reshuffles some of it's facts and comes up with a new interpretation;  so you end up with a new pov(point of view) or a new insight. The NWO concept was reshuffled in my mind and out came some new insights.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To whit: their are or seem to be three NWO groups. and they seem to break down as follows. First of all we must recognize some basic facts about these three groups and that is SECRECY. All three groups operate under the veil of secrecy, they work very hard to avoid the scrutiny of the world, specifically the people of the world. The outcome of these three groups is that theyare about the task of selling the people of the world into a kind of slavery. A kind of slavery means that the peoples of the world have no choice in the matter, no voice in the matter and will thus be dragged into the resultant, the NWO, not of their own free will. This means that the people of the world will in effect be stripped of their own God given Free Will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The three groups are forming three NWOs. They are the NWO of the Catholic Church, the NWO of the Bilderberger Group(members include Bill Clinton, Peter Jennings(now deceased) and ex-Sen. Bill Bradley among others. The Straussian neocons form the third NWO model. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we have:  the Catholic Church NWO, the Bilderberger NWO and the Straussian Neocon NWO. So far I find myself loathing all three groups. I can find  within me no sense or even shred of kinship with any of these three groups. I regard all three as forming their own agenda for their own benefit and all operating against the family of man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for me personally, I support none of these groups. I belong to the family of man, the one created by God that follows the laws of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ and which is imbued with the Holy Spirit of Peace, the Dove of Peace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When things seem so complicated that I struggle to find the proper path to take I always fall back to the basics. They are the Laws of God, the ten commandments as given to Moses by God. The teachings of Jesus Christ in so far as the bible reveals them and the Dead Sea Scrolls have further revealed them, including the writings of St. Thomas which include the actual words spoken by Jesus. These include the words that Jesus said when question by the apostles,&lt;br /&gt;most especially the words "all that you need is within you and about you". Maybe I'm overly sentimental but every time I write or speak those words I am moved to tears and almost choke over the lump in my throat. My spirit is always shaken to the core at the simple power of those words, which are simple, powerful, profound and compelling and inescapable,  all at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The words that Jesus said, as recorded by Thomas are totally clear and make all the sense in the world as to which is the true path. With those words all the clap-trappings, the clutter and detritus of man made religions fall away as scales from my eyes and simple truths become totally clear. The concepts of the Soul, and Free Will, and the right to choose, and personal responsibility all fall into place in a very powerful and compelling way.That is my humble outlook and POV. Each person has to find his own way and that is called Free Will. That is something that each of us has, given to us by our Creator and totally enobling every one of us. Wow the true magisterium is the magisterium&lt;br /&gt;of the one true God. No religion on this earth can lay claim to that magisterium, the ultimate magisterium and the magisterium of the ULTIMATE, the God whose is the true Father to us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Man made religion always falls short because it is the religion of itself and it's own institutionalism. Man made religions fall short because they are man made and full of complex and ever increasingly complex  conjugations and permutations as they go about creating ever more complexities while always avoiding the simple truths. When religious scholars sit around their entire lives creating ever more complexities and nuances something is terribly wrong with them. The simple truths are right in frnt of us and always stare us in the face,and yet we /they so often/always look for the complex to explain and understand everything. God would never have created such a complex system of rules and machinations such that only religious scholars can understand/comprehend and therefore seemingly have to teach to the people. God would make his truths self evident, and for all of His  children to see and understand. Of course the complex nuanced insinuations of the religious literati  satisfies their egos'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I mix the ten commandments, the teachings of Jesus, the words of Thomas and the teachings embodied in the Sermon on the Mount I seem to have all that I need to make appropriate decisions and all that I need to tease apart the thorniest and confusing problems into understandings as to which way to go and how to decide exactly what is right. These concepts/truths place me in communion with the family of man and the Creator, and that is all that I need to see my way to a clarity of mind and action. The aforementioned NWO groups are nothing more than man made  artifacts, and possessing no real significance in the greater scheme that God has created.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic NWO serves the institutional Catholic Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bilderberger NWO stems from the Dutch and British colonial empires and serves their idea of how the world of diminishing  resources, oil/ gas/ energy/ nuclear energy/ and other mineral resources and food resources and water resources ought to be doled out by the wealthy, which is/ are those who claim ownership of those resources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Straussian Neocon NWO is they who form the cognoscenti NWO and who are all wrapped up in their own world domination. It is important to nt that their are two elements to this group of believers, namely the Jewish neocons(Leo Strauss, the Kristols, Krauthammer, Podhoretz, Feith, Pipes, Libby etc;  and the Gentile neocons like the userous Bush Family, Jeb Bush who is very possibly the most dangerous of all of that corrupt family, the Cheney family, Lynn Cheney being the most dangerous and defective with the dickster coming in a close second, and all the other corrupt money grubbers such as the American oil companies and other soulless transnational corporations like Faux Noise and Rupert Murdoch and Halliburton and so many others, all of whom are included in this category.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Jewish neocons can be easily understood as  arising from the various pogroms against the Jews over the centuries. These are the pogroms perpetrated by the Catholic Church over the last 2000 yrs as they have regarded the entire Jewish diaspora as being Christ killers and acting upon that belief system to the great detriment of Jewish people everywhere. The Catholic Church has for 2000 yrs vilified the Jews for the killing of Jesus which was done at the behest of a very small number of Jews, most likely numbering in the tens or at most a hundred plus or minus. So it is easy to see that the Jewish neocons are fighting for their life/lives and protecting themselves after what has been done to them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic NWOs are the do-ers of so much evil, especially against the Jews and against all women except for the first approx. one hundred years, when women had equal status to that of men. The Catholic Church has inveighed against women in such a nefarious and corrupt way and for so  long that it is almost blind to what it continues to do; despite the hollow words of Pope John Paul II in his miserly, meager  and stingy apologies to women and Jews. The Popes, both present and immediately prior, speak in empty words as they have done nothing to change their evil ways. They seem to think apologies are enough and nothing further need be done to make restitution for the ongoing damage to the worldwide Jewish psyche and to the worldwide female psyche.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church via it's alignment with Hitler and the Nazis put forth a direct attack against the allied powers, including America and Russia, andof course against the  Jews. The Catholic Church has another attack going against America and Russia, as both countries are at the top of the Popes hitlist. It's army is the Army and military might of the Republican Party and the Bush family. The Church is winning, as our constitution has been badly shredded and America is now a very divided and deeply fragmented country. The Church gives votes, Catholic votes, and the Republican Party gives political power to the Church. Scalia revealed the intentions of the Catholic Church when he called for and advocatd the END of THE RULE of LAW and the END of DEMOCRACY in America. That speech was given in May, 2000. Nothing could be clearer as that speech was in revealing the true intentions of the Catholic Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if the Dems take the presidency in the elections of 2008 I can see no reason to believe that they can reverse the foul evil deeds done by the Catholic Church via it's alignment with the Republican Party. The Church has strayed VERY FAR from the PATH that Jesus set down for us to follow. The Catholic Church did it's best to destroy America and Russia during WWII and it failed. So once again it does the same thing via it's alignment with the Bush family and the totally greedy Republican Party but this time it is enjoying immense success. It has already turned it's sights on Russia and it is only a matter of time. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but I live in fear that I am correct. I have never been so fearful of the Catholic Church as I am now. I live in daily fear of what will come next. Itis just amazing that one man, the Pope, and one organization, the Catholic Church has that much power. It has the power to condemn all or any one of us to death and the will to use that power on every one it can.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That, my friends, is "The Culture of Death".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remain, as alway, convinced of the fact that there is no room in this world for any kind of fundamentalism,  be it religious fundamentalism, economic/financial fundamentalism or military fundamentalism. All fundies are dangerous be they Catholic fundies, Evangelical fundies or Islamic fundies. They are all equally anathema to human life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God put us on this earth and it is up to all us and each of us to find peace and love toward all. That is our responsibility. No more Holocausts, not ever again, no matter who are the perpetrators and no matter how benign they may seem. If one death results from their agenda they are wrong and heretical and blasphemous and guilty of the sin of PRIDE. The Catholic Fundies, the Evangelical fundies and the Islamic fundies are all equally wrong, it's just as simple as that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry for the lack of editing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-6168160406295812050?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6168160406295812050'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6168160406295812050'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/11/n-w-o-new-world-order.html' title='N-W-O,  New World Order'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-4054761270819183893</id><published>2007-08-28T10:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-28T10:30:24.420-04:00</updated><title type='text'>So Gonzales is to be gone(Sept. 17th)</title><content type='html'>So Gonzo is gone on Sept. 17th, we are making progress and the evil empire is crumbling. Ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked old witch...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gonzo is another 'fall guy' sacrificed to further the ambitions of George Bush and the Bush crime family and the Rethug party and the ambitions of the religious right. Gonzo deserves to be gone for all the damage he has done to our democracy, but so to do the other aforementioned, and for the same reason.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gonzo is a sacrificial anode to put it in marine terms. He has been sacrificed to keep the Bushco Republican ship of state floating a little longer, before it falls into complete corrosion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gonzo is a sacrifice to the roman gods, to keep the pagan emporer happy and delude him into thinking he is still an emporer.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-4054761270819183893?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/4054761270819183893'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/4054761270819183893'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/08/so-gonzales-is-to-be-gonesept-17th.html' title='So Gonzales is to be gone(Sept. 17th)'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-3396438096824762491</id><published>2007-08-27T11:36:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2007-08-28T10:19:27.033-04:00</updated><title type='text'>It has been a long time...</title><content type='html'>Aug 27, 2007&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has been a long time since I lasted posted to my blog. This is due to my long days spent posting to a number of websites, all political as everything is totally political  in America and will probably remain that way long after I am dead, which does not seem to far off. I hope to last until the next election, 2008,  so I can vote one more time, so I can help expel the Rethugs from what is left of our gov't, which actually is now the Popes gov't. I am posting at various sites to help defeat the Republican Party, the political party of death for ever more profits and political power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope to defeat all of the enablers of the party of death, including the Catholic Church, my Church, and the evangelical fundamentalists. Fundamentalist religions are anathema to human life, whether they are Catholic,  Islamic(Bin Laden) or evangelical fundies(Falwell, Robertson, Dobson). Fundies are fundies, they are all extreme, radical and dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let no one say the right wing Catholic fundies or the evangelical fundies are any different than Bin Laden  and his associates; they all kill. The American religious fundies kill our troops, the Iraqi people and the Afghani people. Along with the two fundie American religions supporting the killings are the big American corporations and the  Republican party of death for profits. All are a bunch of death dealing scum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sites I often/daily visit and post on include: Alternet, Salon.com, Huffington Post are the ones I most often visit. Some other sites I read on a daily to frequent to occasional basis include: Eric Altermans Altercation, Ha'aretz(the largest newspaper in Israel), The Kaleej Times( out of Dubai for Noam Chomsky articles and some Arab view points) The International Herald Tribune, Media Matters for America, Pen, FP Media Reform Daily, Wiretap, Mother Jones Journal, Vote Vets.Org, Progresive States Network, open Democracy, Americans United For The Separation of Church and State(I have joined them) Unity08(I joined them last year) Campaign To Defend the Constitution, The Free Press(Fitrakis and Wasserman) did/do a fantastic job of revealing corruption including corrupt elections in Ohio by the Ohio Rethug party and Ken Blackwell, Ray McGovern's VIPS and about two dozen other sites.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Dr. Fitrakis runs for any political office I will support him. He and Harvey Wasserman have done a great job of revealing the extent of Republican voter corruption efforts in Ohio, The US intel's forcing the close of Antioch College (a very fine small liberal arts college in Dayton Ohio well known for progressive and anti-war thinking) Gov. Rhodes 'owned' by the FBI (due to his involvement with the mafia) and the deaths of the Kent State students (I'm a grad of Kent State and had classes that evening  but had a Guardsmans rifle shoved in my face as I tried to drive on campus, so I snuck on another way and was met by a goup of students who told me about the shootings that took place just two hours earlier) and the efforts by The Free Press(known as the Columbus Free Press during the Vietnam war) and other Ohio groups and all of their efforts to unseat Sen. George Voinovich(Catholic), Jean Schmidt(Catholic) Pryce and LaTourette.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the past I always voted for Voinovich, DeWine(another corrupt Catholic Republican as is Schmidt) and LaTourette but stopped in the last election. These right wing Bush/Rethug voters will never get my vote again. In the last (2006) election I voted only for dems. I have not done that since the Vietnam War. I always voted for whomever I thought was the best person regardless of political party, but no more. And I worked hard to get DeWine defeated, and he was.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, more good news, this morning(Aug. 27,2007) Alberto Gonzales(Catholic) resigned as AG. Thank the good God, another warhawk, actually chickenhawk, is gone. Rove just resigned a few weeks ago. But he will most certainly be out in the hinterlands creating havoc and attacking America. My best guess is that he will be working to make another member of the Bush crime family, Jeb Bush(Catholic), who is waiting in the wings for his chance at destroying America and the world for PROFIT and POLITICAL POWER into a prez. That is all the Bush family and Rethugs are good for, destroying and never accepting responsibility for their agenda of death and destruction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Truly the party of god(their god is corruption and gets a lower case g) and it's enablers are satanic and diabolical. But since Nixon that is what they have always been and  Pope John Paul II knew that when he decided to join them, certainly everyone else knew they were consumed by GREED for money and political power. And so the Popes must be consumed by the same things, including dominion and domination over the lives of others, and despite their God given FREE WILL. But then our God given FREE WILL has never meant anything to  the Popes, all of whom have been 'moral relativists'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dogmatic authoritarians are always 'moral relativists' they hold others to one standard of behavior and themselves to a much lower standard.That is why the Church is replete with gay(sorry gays, I just don't think gays should be priests) priests, uncelibate priests and pedophile priests. And then to make matters even worse it covers for them and  protects them and defends them and moves them to other parishes to continue plying their  particular form of sexual aberration. In addition the Church attacks the victims, truly amaaazing, and corrupt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh btw, speaking of the Churches obsession with sex and it's vicarious involvement in others peoples sex lives. I came across the writings of a truly God inspired Anglican Bishop, Bishop Ingham, who wrote the most beautiful treatise on sex and love that I have ever read. God must have inspired this good/great Bishop to write such a  totally beautiful treatise on that subject. Such a beautiful piece of observation about human sexuality could never have been written by  any fundamentalist, Catholic or otherwise. The Catholic Church and Catholics are so sexually repressed, obsessed,  deviant and/or warped about sex that they would never have been able to write such a  treatise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I knew sex was a sublime experience that it must have been created by God. Thanks be to God for all his wonderful creations including nature, animals especially baby animals, human babies,  plants and what is left of our increasingly decaying and dying planet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our planet and our human civilization will die even more when Bushco and the religious right bomb IRAN and turn that country into a sheet of glass just because they are unlikely enough to have OIL. When one is talking about the Bush family and the Republican Party oil and wealth  and political power are everything they worship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember in religion class discussing the fact that the Popes always told the poor it was okay to be poor, even a blessing to starve and die, while at the same time the Church hierarchy always associated with the rich and were usually rich themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pope should know poverty and the Pope should live in Iraq for a year, walking the streets looking for food and water. The Pope should observe that Iraqi women/mothers are prostituting themselves for food. And when they get abortions the Pope should witness what happens topoor and desparate women and their families.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One HUGE cause of women seeking abortions is poverty, not becaus they are evil. But the Pope just ants to stamp out abortions, no matter how many people, women and men, he has to KILL to do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another HUGE cause of abortions is women and girls suffering from such low self worth that they give their bodies to gain some fleeting and false sense of self worth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And once again the Catholic Church has for about 1900 of it's 2000 year history been stamping/ treading on womens self worth, treating them as third class humans after men and children. Keeping women barefoot, in the kitchen and pregnant only convinces women that all they are is baby machines and have no other value. When a womans or girls only sense of self worth comes from making babies then that is exactly what they do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the Pope truly wanted to do something about abortion he would do something about the root causes that lead to unwanted pregnancies and that lead to abortions. Instead he supports the Republican Party, the party of wealth, but wealth only for itself while the middle class and the poor continue in a downward spiral toward ever more poverty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum 1879, spoke out clearly AGAINST rampant capitalism. But the current and previous Popes are/were tightly aligned with and totally supportive of the Republican party of rampant CAPITALISM.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The US is headed for, in the near term, theo-corporatocracy. But in the long term it is headed for what the corporate republicans truly believe in, total corporatocracy in the endless and greedy pursuit of MONEY/WEALTH, no matter who has to pay the price and no matter how high the price even poverty and death, and that is NOT pro-life, not even close.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can the current and previous Popes see or look at any of that aforementioned; not one bit they didn't. Everyone only has to look at Latin American countries to see what the Catholic Church has been doing for the last five hundred years and one can see how the Church is committed to poverty for the masses. Pope Benedict you can't have it both ways, you can't continue to promote poverty(it's really not next to godliness) and your hoped for continuation of control over the masses and stop abortion at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Btw Pope Benedict your wealthy Republican friends will continue to get all the abortions they want and you can't do anything to stop them. While at the same time you aid them in impoverishing ever more people. You Pope Benedict havebecome a handmaiden to the machinations of the worst, most greedy and totally selfish members of our society just as you have done and continue to do in Latin countries when you helped your Republican friends, especially Karl Rove and Dick Morris directly cause the defeat of Mr. Lopez Obrador in the recent Mexican elections. I hope you are proud of yourself and what you have done to continue the poverty in Mexico. And someday, if not already the despair of the Mexican people will cause them to use drugs in ever increasing amounts to deal with the pain of their despair, albeit a fleeting and false attempt, yielding no long term solutions only ever more human degradation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Methinks somehow Pope Benedict that your supposed to be the servant of God and his children not their slave master. Wow, all I can say is that the Catholic Church is really screwed up beyond belief. ThPopes have sold out to the Rethug party of greed and death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just maybe the prediction of St Malachy will come true. And just maybe that is the same promise as the Blessed Virgin Mary made.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;br /&gt;PRAY for the END of those who promote death for  oil profits and all their enablers.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-3396438096824762491?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/3396438096824762491'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/3396438096824762491'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/08/it-has-been-long-time.html' title='It has been a long time...'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-6665329249119806347</id><published>2007-05-05T07:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-05-05T07:32:30.013-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank You Catholic Church</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just read that three more republican lawmakers have been named as guilty in crimes committed under their auspices as republican legislators. This kind of revelation seems to be occurring on an almost daily basis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To that all I can say, ironically, is thank you Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI for your enduring support of the rethuglikkkan party. You  have once more contributed to the daily lives of all americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When will you ever learn that no religion should ever be endorsing any political party. Stick to your congregations, you have screwed them up badly enough. Stop screwing up the lives of all the rest of the americans who are not your congregants. I may be a catholic but I am not a congregant so stay out of the lives of the rest of us. You guys are totally guilty of using the republican party to wage your war upon and destroy America, cause the deaths of 655,000 Iraqis, who knows how many Afghanis, nearly 3,300 dead american troops and the maiming in mind and body of some tens of thousands of other american troops. You have unleashed the beast and he is upon us all, including the entire world. To the popes and the catholic hierarchy you have unleashed your demons on the rest of us and we are dying because of what you have done.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You, the catholic church have gone far afield from the message of love that Jesus Christ preached. Your shame is great, beyond any means of calculation; just as before, during and after WWII. Yes you may have saved some Jews but you never should have supported Hitler and the Nazi party in the first place. And you never should have supported Reagan, daddy Bush and baby Bush or the rethug party in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you wanted to dominate or destroy America  you have succeeded. America is helpless to defend itself against what you have unleashed upon us.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-6665329249119806347?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6665329249119806347'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/6665329249119806347'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/05/thank-you-catholic-church.html' title='Thank You Catholic Church'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-204980244063476308</id><published>2007-04-26T03:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-26T04:34:08.450-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Archbishop  Raymond Burke</title><content type='html'>Dear All.&lt;br /&gt;Archbishop Raymond Burke denounced a Catholic charity for having Sheryl Crow make an appearance because she supports abortion rights, according to the AP. The archbishop resigned from the Board of Directors of that charity and said a Catholic organization that  employs performers who endorse a "moral evil" is inconsistent with Catholic teaching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would tend to agree with him, especially in the past. But Now Catholicism is claerly guilty in so many ways of hypocracy that He better get far more consistent himself and demand the Catholic church do the same before he throws any stones at others. His use of the term "moral evil" is just one example. The Catholic church is guiilty of so many "moral evils" it self that it has absolutely no room to criticise anyone. Does archbishop Burke think he is George W Bush, who likes the "axis of evil" good vs bad binary dichotomy to judge absolutely everything and everyone in this world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well archbishop Burke if you had some personal integrity then you would stand up for America, fair wages for families and at least some acceptance and tolerance of others instead of giving your endless support to the Bushie Republican Party, the party of war-death-kill for PROFIT and world domination. You would stand up for the equality of women in America and not be a part of the Catholic church that has kept women in second class status for almost the entire existence of the Catholic church. You sir would demand that lying Catholic Republicans stop their endless lying for the benefit of the war-death-kill Republican Party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you do those things you may have some credibility and integrity. Now you are nothing more than a hypocrite, so typical of so many Catholic republicans. And I will bet that when you vote you vote republican thus providing your vote and support to them so they can go on killing for PROFIT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No truly religious person especially a Catholic prelate or any Catholic for that matter should be an endless suporter for any political party much less the Republican Party, and you should tell that to the current pope who is just as wrong as the last pope was.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I for one, will not sit idly  by while you and the popes and the Catholic church heirarchy do your damnedest to divide and destroy my America. You sir are part of the Bushie/ Rove machine to destroy the Democratic Party and turn America into what I call a "Totalitarian Republican Jihadist Theocracy".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will not let you and the entire Catholic church end american democracy. You and your ilk have turned my Catholic church into a Republican political organization. You and your friends Falwell, Robertson, Hagee, Dobson and LaHaye must all just love what you are doing to America. You sir should register as an agent of a foreign power because that is exactly what you are, an agent of the Vatican, truly a foreign power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus forbade it and so does our now badly shredded US Constitution. I hold you and your kind responsible for and guilty of directly causing that damage and all the damage that has taken place in America. Get out of the slime of Republican party politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you have done that then you will have some credibility and can talk to people like me who see our country being dragged under by you people. You sir may be consistent with the horrendous Catholic teaching that has been coming out of the Catholic church since Pope John Paul II put Reagan into the WH and aligned the Catholic church with the Republican party. You may be consistent with current Catholic thinking but you are not in any way consistent with the teaching of Jesus Christ, and that is who I will follow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stop your hypocracy archbishop Burke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While you maintain your hypocracy I will pray for peace.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-204980244063476308?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/204980244063476308'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/204980244063476308'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/04/archbishop-raymond-burke.html' title='Archbishop  Raymond Burke'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-4160038055945472764</id><published>2007-04-16T08:13:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-04-16T08:51:09.949-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Another Attack On The Internet Coming From Bushies and The Religious Right</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;Now they want to cancel the internet and re-do it. I say no to that idea.&lt;br /&gt;We do not know what we are going to get. My guess is that a new internet will be much closer to the kind of internet the Chinese have. GWB has already tried to do away with the internet under the guise of controlling porn. He doesn't care about porn. His staunchest supporter is Rupert Murdoch who is the biggest carrier of porn in the US and maybe the world. Despite that fact all the right wingers think that Fox News is the best because Murdoch constantly spouts their agenda. Were the religious right, including the Catholic Church, my church, such true conservatives they would stop Murdoch from carrying porn or at least confront him about it and in public. But porn is such a huge business that no one on the right says anything about Murdoch's porn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another guise for exercising rigid control and giving us less access to the internet and information over the internet will be GWB et.al.  using the national security argument/ploy. GWB has 21 months to go in office and the fight is only the beginning. Will he succeed, No I do not think so and I will bend every effort to make sure that he and the religious right wingnuts do not succeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also rather than cancelling the internet there are other ways to stop porn on the internet that are very simple to do. No, Bush and the republicans want to end the internet so they can produce a much more highly controlled and profitable internet for their business friends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As it stands now the internet is 'everymans' greastes democratic institution second only to our now shredded US Constitution. It is a well accepted fact that knowledge in the hands of the general population leads to a nore enlightened populace and an enlightened  populace makes the best decisions at voting time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Bush and the Catholic Church want to keep us all ignorant and poor. It is a clear sociological fact that such a populace is much easier to control. The Catholic Church has always been about control of it's parishoners and now has extended that belief to a desire to control every american, not just Catholic Americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is where we are headed as long as the Catholic church has so much political power. Scalia in a speech he gave in May, 2000 advocated the end of the rule of law and further advocated the end of democracy in America. Scalia, a very staunch and dedicated Catholic speaks not only for the Catholic Church but also speaks for the Republican Party and the head idiot GWB/Rove/Cheney et.al.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is another attempt to end democracy in America. The religious right is totally complicit in thisd attempt to end democracy in America just as it does not exist in many other Catholic Countries in Central and South America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Should Bush and the rethugs succeed at this goal to undemocratise America Canada and Europe will take over the internet and America will further descend into the current age of endarkenment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Should the Catholic Church succeed in taking the internet away I will not just become a critic of Catholic politics, Instead I will become an enemy of Catholicism. My aunt the nun would not like that; but givcn that she is in heaven, she will not doubt understand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-4160038055945472764?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/4160038055945472764'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/4160038055945472764'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/04/another-attack-on-internet-coming-from.html' title='Another Attack On The Internet Coming From Bushies and The Religious Right'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-125015356367271839</id><published>2007-03-31T13:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-31T16:59:09.461-04:00</updated><title type='text'>David Gregory</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Gregory was on the Charlie Rose Show last night and even though I missed some of it my understanding of what went on was a combination of two things, namely, a partial sanitizing of some of the worst of GWB and some revelation of GWB changes/shifts in thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regarding the former I am not accusing David Gregory of dissembling about and sanitizing of GWB's image, although Charlie could be accused of that due to his past behavior of 'working' for Bush and the Repub Party. Though Charlie is to be suspected, David Gregory is to be believed and I believe him, maybe, I hope. I hope he has not gone ove to the darkside or is being used by the Bushies/Rovies/Republicans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To whit, some recent events have shown that there maybe some movement by GWB from his position of his southern thinking/mindset pf obstinacy/corruption. If Bush has truly moved a bit from  his dead-head mindset we have the Dems to thank.That is what a balance of power can and will accomplish. Democracy will only survive if the american people stop listening to the haters and demand and vote to maintain a balance of political power in america. Just maybe the american people have awakened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Dems, put in power at the last election by the american people and to their great credit just may have accomplished what can be viewed as nothing short of a miracle. Namely, forcing the imperial president to come to some, at least a bit of reality about Iraq and America. Just because we can attack and kill does not mean we should. We should never abandon the teachings of Jesus, no matter what any religious leader nor any politician says. They are human and easily corrupted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Group dynamics tells us that are large enough group of people will almost always make the best decisions. And the american people are a large and diverse enough group of people, and possesed of good conscience and good values. While political parties and fundamentalist religious zealots are most assuredly not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;David Gregory(DG) and Helen Thomas are the only real and courageous journalists in the WH Press Corp that have ever stood up to the vicious Bush/Rove/Cheney cabal. Why DG was never intimidated, I don't know. Maybe it's because he could not be or maybe it is/was because the WH wanted to keep at least two members of the press corp credible in case they needed to use them for some purposes. I just don't know and can't imagine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So given that DG is a credible source, as I think he is. And given that he was on stage and dancing with Rove the other day, the evil/psycho/paranoid Rove (what is that piece of scum going to tell his kids someday when they start asking questions and what does he tell his wife now about his evil doings and how does she live with him and herself because she must know something, although I am assuming that she is not as evil as he is, which is only an assumption, just maybe she is) . How does Texas spawn so many corrupt people, Enron, the Bush family,  Rove, Gonzales and so many more well known to us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What can we take from all of this. Is DG either in the good graces of Rove or is he being USED as Rove and the republican cabal USE everyone in their monolithlic stepford(wives) march to total domination of america and the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For now I choose to think that DG has been allowed to get closer to the Bushies and been privy to the inside information that he revealed on Charlie Rose. If so then the information of which he spoke may be/probably is, true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can only offer a thumbnail sketch of very limited information since I did not record the program and thus cannot replay DG's statements. But he seemed to be saying that Bush is changing and coming to a bit better acceptance of the events going on in the horrendous debacle that is Iraq(created entirely by Bush the lesser and his cabal of Neocons and the military- industrial complex) wherein the military part of that complex has finally forced/told GWB the realities in Iraq. Oh would that Colin Powell have done so and long ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That, coupled with the Dems moving in on Bush and his cabal of evil, first moving in on Rumsfeld who was sacrificed, and now another dumb Bush flunky namely, Gonzales, the no necked incompetent toady with the sly smile and who is guilty of putting into play the satanic Rovian use of the DOJ to do just what he said he and the rethugs would do, namely, destroy the Democratic Party. Which if said destruction is successful will result in the desires of the pope and his fundamentalist zealotry to convert America into a "Totalitarian Republican Theocracy".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Allowing the pope to achieve his pet project of stopping all abortions for any reason as occurs in so many catholic latino countries. To the pope it does not matter how many women die, he will allow no abortions for any reason in america. Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito are in the SCOTUS to make sure that happens.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush gives political power to the pope and the pope gives catholic votes to Bush and the Rethug Party. This trading of religious values for political power by the popes(Pius XI and Pius XII to Hitler prior to, during and after WWII which led to the Holocaust and the trading of catholic votes now by Popes John Paul and Benedict XVI for political power) is sacrilege, heresy,  blasphemy and PRIDE by those four popes. Their reason for doing so matters not one bit because sin cannot bear good fruit, good outcomes. Aka 'the ends, stopping abortions, does not justify the means, the selling of religious values and votes for political power. The selling of religion is NEVER right. The merging of church and state is NEVER right(both church and state are corrupted) and Jesus forbade such as does our now shredded US Constitution. The merging of church and state has resulted in the loss of Habeas Corpus, torture, killing all done by a political party run amuck. The Republican Party has been corrupted by religion. Our democracy is totally dependant on our two political parties being in some kind of balance thus enabling  our precious 'system of checks and balances' without which we cease to exist as a democracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile back to Bush, he may have finally come to at least some small , some bit of acceptance of reality about his war-death-killing (in Iraq) for PROFIT and world domination. DG seemed to be saying that very thing. The Dems and the military and the end of his evil presidency are forcing GWB to finally accept and face some small measure of reality and come out of his dream/fantasy hail fellow frat boy world. Bushs ever present escapism may be coming to an end. If he needs escapism let him go back to Texass and drink/drug himself to death so the rest of us can live in the real world. In eighteen months the Barbara Bush fantasy will hopefully come to an end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sincerely hope so, just maybe we can stop the Bush cabal of Big Religion, both catholic and evangelical fundamentalist zealots; The Neocon  cabal pushing for world domination, and the corporatocracy of soul-less people who are perfectly happy to make totally execessive amounts of money no matter the cost in human lives; american lives, Iraqi lives, Afghani lives or Iranian lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I repeat, the evil cabal is:&lt;br /&gt;1. Big religion, both catholic and evangelical fundamentalist zealots, christofascists bent on death and suppression of all women seeking abortions. Yes abortion is to be avoided but not at the cost of womens live. Big religion is just going to have to find a far more loving and respectful way to accomplish it's chosen desires. The foundation of Jesus's teachings is love and respect for all of God's children and the sacrificing of womens lives and freedoms is totally the wrong way and far from the path of Jesus's teachings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Big Neocons, including Jeb Bush, Rumsfeld, Bill Kristol and his father, Cheney, Charles Krauthammer et.al. ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Admittedly the catholic church via it's endorsement of Hitler and the Nazi Party gave us the Holocaust and now has resulted in what can only be described as the Straussian Nazi Neocons all bent on world domination. But creating another holocaust in the ME is most asuredly not the way. Actually the Neocons would accomplish far more by attacking the catholic church and demanding that it open the church archives to public scrutiny, to scholarly scrutiny, to jewish scholarly scrutiny, to angry jewish scholarly scrutiny. That kind of scrutiny would accomplish far more than creating another holocaust in the ME which may result in destabilizing the ME and putting Israel in great danger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. And of course the third member of the evil cabal is as always the american corporatocracy which is responsible for so many deaths all over the world via the CIA and it's use by all american presidents  throughout the world and most especially in latin american countries who  resisted the plundering of their resources by american companies and which caused the deaths of millions of humans in those latin  american countries.  Do we all remember Pinochet, Papa Doc Duvalier, Baby Doc Dualier and so many more. And then there is the catholic church which sems bent on keeping latin american peoples in poverty as it as chosen to protest almost not at all the killing of so many and done so only in order to add to the wealth of american businesses, just as is going on at this very minute and has happened in the past by United Fruit Co aka Chiquita headquartered in Cincinnati Ohio, the home of so many catholics like Jean Schmidt(R-Oh) the congressional representative who viciously attacked John Murtha another catholic who tried to stop the war while Ms. Schmidt who if she was a true catholic should have been trying just as hard to perform her catholic duty to stop the Bushie war-death-killing for PROFIT. Schmidt you are nothing more than a worthless piece of republican trash.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, I hope David Gregory is right in what he said. If so all I can say is AMEN, and thank God. And I pray daily that this is or will come to pass. No thanks to Schmidt or Pope John Paul or Pope Benedict who allowed all of this death and destruction to happen, saying nothing or almost nothing while at the same time so egregiously guilty of putting and keeping the Republican Party in power to do it's evil deeds and not for Pro-Life, only for Pro-Birth while doing almost nothing to promoite the life of the child or his family once it is born, something such as in the nature of pushing corporate america to give people a living wage with which to raise that child.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remain sick and totally disgusted at the popes(Pius XI, Pius XII, John Paul and Benedict XVI)&lt;br /&gt;all of whom have abandoned real catholic principles and left all of us to struggle alone aganist the very evil perpetrated by satan and the catholic church. I am reviled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;br /&gt;Pray for the Pope to come to his senses and abandon satan. May the good, great God help us all as we have been abandoned.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-125015356367271839?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/125015356367271839'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/125015356367271839'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/03/david-gregory.html' title='David Gregory'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-3194537729053379606</id><published>2007-03-25T12:53:00.001-04:00</published><updated>2007-03-25T13:03:43.984-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Pope Is At It Again</title><content type='html'>Now more than ever I know I am correct in my contention that the Pope is influencing politics. However he is doing it in other countries as well as in the US. Now He is talking about Europe and Mexico. He is being duplicitous about it as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In January, 2006 I sent an email that said he, the Pope, is involving himself in american politics and policies both domestic and foreign. In a statement the Pope said he is not involved in american politics and policies both domestic and foreign. He used my exact words. He refuted my claim, but he was not telling the truth, he was lying.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The proof was that he was among other things, steering the outcomes of our elections. I refer to the fact that he made a public statement to the affect that Sen. John Kerry might have the sacraments denied him. That cost Kerry the election and Bush was reelected. We can see the damage that was done, not just to Kerry not getting elected but far worse,  Bush was reelected and we all can see the damage that was done to America and the world as a result. Death abounds, not pro-life but Pro-Death and it's Pro-Death for PROFIT and world domination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America has been damaged beyond belief. I am an Independant and will vote for whomever I think will work for and do the best job for America. The Bushies and the entire Republican Party have a destructive stranglehold on America and the end results for democracy are obvious, they are killing it. Does the pope/popes care anything about torture, now or during WWII by the Nazis to the jews, well he made a little statement opposing it but he/they did/do NOTHING about it, then or now. Does he oppose the end of 'habeas corpus', not. Does he oppose  the end of democracy, not one bit. He seems to welcome it. Scalia, one of the papal mouthpieces, said in a speech he gave in May, 2000 said there is a 'higher law' and he endorsed the end of the rule of law in america and endorsed the rule of religion and the merging of church and state. In that same speech he also supported the end of democracy in america, to be replace by this rule of the papacy under the guise that it is the rule of the laws of God, so that means Scalia and the Pope KNOW the mind of God. I guess they like GWB talk directly to God. Maybe they like GWB think they are Jesus Christ. But my bible spoke only of one Jesus Christ. The end of democracy in america, imagine that. These people must think they are god to ordain such a monstrous concept. But then all fundamentalists think that way, they know no HUMILITY and committ the sin of PRIDE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is very clear that the present and prior pope are causing this damage to America by their endless endorsement of the Republican Party war-kill-death machine for profit. Thanks to the pope death is every where. So much for what was once a good religion, my religion, the catholic religion. The religio-fascist death machine is rampant in the USA and in the ME.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now that same machine is rearing up it's ugly head once again via the pope's speechs about  Europe and Latin america especially Mexico. The mexican elections were perverted by the pope and his american Republican Party. Dick Morris, a Republican Party strategist went to Mexico and via the usual  Republican Party political machine of destruction of the other candidate, Mr. Lopez Obrador, the election was swayed from the candidate who would most serve the needs of the mexican people to the candidate, Calderon, the conservative candidate, who only serves the needs of the wealthy in mexico and the american corporations who have always exploited the mexican people. So now, among other things the mexican people will continue in their endless death spiral of poverty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All thanks to the Pope and the Republican Party. Thanks Popes John Paul and Benedict but no thanks, once again your politics are corrupt and anathema to human life. You are not in the least Pro-Life, you are nothing more than the popes of the wealthy, Pro-Birth and Pro-death. You two popes are as wrong and corrupt as the popes who endorsed Hitler and the Nazi Party well before WWII. Just as did the Bush family, but far worse. Your politics reveal you for what you really are, completely self serving no matter the cost in human lives, no matter the cost to the viability of social systems, no matter the cost to the life of societies and countries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now what is the pope doing. Now having engineered the destruction of america and democracy; Now having engineered the destruction of the ME; the previous and now the current pope are engineering the destruction of Europe and Mexico, as well as the ME(via their support for the Republican Party of war and death for profit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;St. Malachy, archbishop of Armagh(Ireland) predicted the end of the papacy and maybe the end of the Catholic Church and this is to occur under the rule of the current pope. Maybe the time has come for the demise of the Catholic Church and maybe God has deigned it so for the list of terrible choices made by the popes. The popes have committed egregious sins against the family of man, all over the world. Thanks to these two popes the entire planet may cease to exist and maybe God has deigned it so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But somehow the thought of a God who would do such a thing, destroy all hope and subsequently all mankind seems to violate the concepts of a loving and merciful God, the God of creativity, all creativity. Personally I think God gave us free will so that we could choose. Without choice all human beings no longer have a soul. Choice equals our humanity which is our soul. The popes are egregiously guilty of stripping human beings of their soul, their right to choose. Including the right to choose our political party and to make many other choices, our value systems, our willingness to create from our value systems such things as our social network.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our social network, so hated by Republicans, is the way we help each other. The funding of that social network is against the very core of the Republican Party, the popes party since the days of Reagan.  But by the funding of our american social network is how we care for each other. And the endless efforts by the Republican Party to de-fund that social network of caring for each other removes the basis of our society and will bring about the destruction of our society. The unending, relentless desire by the republicans to end that network  for the ever greater PROFIT of the business world and the wealthy in america ends our daily prayer to God which is what our social system of caring for each other is all about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Republican Party, the popes party in america, is totally intent upon the destruction of humanity, the servitude of all humanity for GREED for money and political power. The past two popes are at the very center of this attempt to end our sicial network and keep america in poverty as well as all other countries especially latin american countries where the catholic church has so much power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the pope is undermining the European Union with his claim s that it is losing hope for it's future. The pope doesn't care about the future of the EU the only thing he cares about is it's future as the way he sees that future. The pope is demanding the kind of future that he wants not the kind of future the people of Europe have/will/are/have chosen. As in america the EU peoples are having smaller families. But the pope has decided that is a bad thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me this is what the peoples of the EU have chosen but the pope wants them to have more babies(quiverful concept) so he has many arrows with which to strike and rain death and destruction down upon someone, probably muslims and Islam. How can the killing of many millions of human beings in order to subordinate them to western fascism be a good thing when Jesus would never agree to such a thing. The popes want more christian soldiers to spread death. Something is terribly wrong with that concept. Facism and death for profit are anathema to human life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The death of muslims is not negotiable and must never be allowed. Talks and negotiations with all other peoples is the ONLY way forward.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The two popes prior to WWII that endorsed Hitler and the Nazi Party was just so totally wrong. It gave the world the Holocaust and was based on the belief that the jews killed Christ, so it was okay to end the life of six million jews and terrify all jews everywhere unto this very day. So now we have the Neocons, the counter measure to that  concept of the Holocaust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The institutional(Catholic Church) desire to force anything on people is wrong, especially in light of the fact that those who claim to KNOW the mind of God(popes) are doing the forcing. Anyone who makes that claim, like GWB, is commiting the sin of Pride. So if the pope has a different viewpoint then let him put that viewpoint before the people of the world in a very open way and let the people do their own CHOOSING, that is the very concept of free will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I'm not saying that if catholic people want to destroy jews that they be allowed to do so. This is carrying the idea of the populist to far, to an extreme. Nor should Islamic fundamentalists be allowed to do the same. Nor should GWB and the Republican Party be allowed to invade the ME for proft. But short of that all things must be considered and negoitated among peoples. Someone has to remind the Republican Party that killing for profit is totally wrong. If america has no more oil then it must negotiate with the ME countries/peoples who do have the oil. The Republican strategy of divide and conquer via wedge issues(exploting Suuni versus Shia divisions to divide and conquer the ME is totally wrong. It is a poisonous strategy, born of evil, from which no good can come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The use of that strategy in the USA is just one of their strategies of divide and conquer poisonous strategies they use to gain and keep political power, and for the furtherance of their GREED for money and political power. And the fact that both popes have chosen to affiliate themselves with those who use such strategies speaks volumes about the mentality that has permeated the papacy and the vatican and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fear mongering of the pope is as wrong as the fear mongering of the Republican Party. The pope is concerned that the lowering of birth rates will cause economic collapse and so is the Republican Party, the party of never ending GREED. The popes concern about immigrant populations in Europe is the exact opposite of his stance on immigrant populations from latin america into the US. Here. to him it is a good thing and he has unleashed the wealth, power and GREED of the Republican Party to continue that process. But in Europe he sees the movement of immigrant populations as a bad thing. That is because he has nearly total control over immigrants to america because they are almost all catholics. While in Europe the immigrants are or include so many muslims. I would ask the pope, don't muslims have a right to immigrate for jobs and to support their families. But he is totally committed to the illegal immigration of latinos. It all sounds like a huge hypocrasy to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The pope endorses the violation of our laws and the violation of our rights to have laws that protect our country and give us a sense of control over our lives and our country by controlling our borders and the rate of immigrants coming into our country. Here again we see the papal willingness to violate the rights of the american to have some control over our destiny, to make america what we the people of america want our country to be. All people desire control of their lives as they see fit not as the pope sees fit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The pope laments the loss of social cohesion in Europe yet the loss of social cohesion via illegal immigration is totally okay with the pope. Sounds like another huge papal hypocrasy to me. If the pope thinks it is not a huge hypocrasy he MUST explain his thinking and 'we the people' must have the right then to make our own decision about whether we will go along with his thought process and not have it forced down our throats via the Republican Party and its destruction of demaocracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the pope is so convinced he is taking the right stance then he MUST explain himself, not take away our right of choice via the Republican Party stance that american businesses need cheap labor to exploit. The cheap labor that is destroying our american economy and destroying our standard of living and ending wages sufficient for middle class and lower socioeconomic class peoples the means to provide for our families a living wage. A living wage is Pro-Life not just Pro-Birth as the pope continues to force on us. Pro-Birth is not enough. Once the child is born and with no living wage to support the life of that child then all that remains is the death of that child. Should that child survive all that leaves is a live of servitude for the wealthy and the corporatocracy and very likely death in that servitude. Where is there any justice in that scenario. There is none.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I am am operating on a certain assumption, namely, that the pope is well meaning but making bad decisions. It may well be that the pope is not at all well meaning and that he is deliberately making bad decisions for his own self serving reasons and the self serving reasons of the vatican and the catholic church, his institution. That scenario seems everyday to be the more likely. The popes willingness to sacrifice any and all human beings for his own ends seems to be increasingly self evident as the days roll by. The  endless and staunch support of the Republican Party of total selfishness and egreagious self centeredness for wealth and ever more profit is a huge indicator that the pope is /has gone over to the 'dark side' of the Republican Party mindset.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a young catholic we used to talk about the strange inconsistencies and incongruencies of our church. The churchs endorsement of Hitler and the Nazi Party before, during and after the war(yes thats what I said, after the war when the catholic church was committed to helping high level Nazis escape the Nuremburg trials seemed criminal to us and even more so since the popes and catholic authorities never explained why they endorsed Hitler and the Nazi Party and helped them escape the Nuremburg trials. Why did the popes do this and amintain this secrecy to this very day. It seemed to us that the popes had something to hide and were keeping it hidden by helping top level Nazis to escape and thus stopping them from speaking out about the involvement of the church in Nazi Party and WWII and the Holocaust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also as a grade school catholic growing up we questioned the wealth of the catholic church despite the fact that people all over the world were starving. We remember that the bible spoke of Jesus saying, and I'm paraphrasing becuase I don't remember His exact words but they were something to the effect that one is to 'give away all that you have and come follow me'. Words that were/are some of the sweetest words ever spoken. And yet despite those words the catholic church is an extremely weathy church, truly a megachurch both in numbers of catholics and it's own wealth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There were many other inconsistencies between catholic teach and preaching and catholic action. We always noticed that the catholic heirarchy could rationalise everthing no matter how inconsistent or even deviant and we knew nothing about priestly sex scandals and the church being totally bent on the coverup rather than the correction of the problem. Now it is totally obvious that these deviant priest were equally as deviant then as they are now and probably always were right back to the very beginnings of catholicism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I sound radicalised and scandalised by these events and inconsistencies it is because now I am.&lt;br /&gt;If I sound radicalised and scamdalised by the Republican Party, yes I am.&lt;br /&gt;If I sound radicalised and scandalised by the merging of the church(catholic church) and the state(Republican Party and Republican entire mindset and the catholic republican government) it is because I am.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just maybe the pope will maybe reconsider his thinking when a nuclear device is brought across our borders or the ME is destablilised for profit by his Republican Party or america is destroyed by the Republican Party that he endorses, just maybe he will have second thoughts about his endorsement and support of the Republican Party, the party of obvious war-death-destruction for fun and PROFIT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the 241 million americans who did not vote republican have to make some decisions about the merging of church and state. It is quite clear which way the popes have decided. It is obvious to me that the popes made sins of abomination before WWII and are making equally abominable  sins now in there support of the Republican mindset/southern mindset now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am but one person with no political power of any kind except my one vote and I do exercise that. But it is up to the american people it is they who must decide whether they are going to allow all of this to happen in america and in the ME and in the entire world. Are 'we the people' going to  allow this merging of church and state and the desire of both entities, Big religion and the Republican Party of war-killing-death for profit to end our cherished democracy and our cherished Constitution. It's not just a piece of paper as the republicans and their minions, and they are 'legion', claim. America must stand for justice, fairness and some measure of equality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE, and now 'we the people' must be willing to fight for peace even against the religious forces that promote war.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-3194537729053379606?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/3194537729053379606'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/3194537729053379606'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/03/pope-is-at-it-again.html' title='The Pope Is At It Again'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-117084765300743991</id><published>2007-02-07T05:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-02-07T06:27:33.070-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Secret Rendition, Bush's America and the Truth About Pro-Death/Pro-Life</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems that 60 countries signed on to an agreement/treaty that they will not disappear people. But the USA was not one of them, Bush wouldn't allow it. Of course he would not allow it because America is the country most guilty of these disappearances of human beings. America should have been among the first to sign such a treaty. But since Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Yoo and Gonzales are the very ones at the center of those who are doing the secret disappearances Bush refused.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America has descended into hell, now it is official once again. Bush admitted he was doing these secret disappearances last fall aand this is another proof of that fact. America and it's current gov't have become a corrupt country. Secret disappearances and deadly torture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America has become a dictator country because secret disappearances of human beings is exactly what dictators do and have always done. America is now in a group of nations/people like the  Nazis, Russia and China. And aren't we just proud of that. NOT, totally ashamed is the truth of the matter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some other European also did not sign on to the treaty because they are participating with Bush in the secret rendition policy. This includes Italy where the Vatican is located.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI for what you have done to America. You are corrupted and you have helped the Republican Party drag America down to your level, down to hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So much for the Catholic religion and it's leaders. So much for Bishop Richard G. Lennon of the Cleveland Diocese, just another willing participant in this abomination between the catholic church and the Bush Rethug government of thugs and bullies. Denial of human rights is something the Popes can add to their list of sins. It is now totally understandable how the Catholic Church and Popes Pius XI and XII could support Hitler and the Nazi Party. Satan has come home to roost in the decay of the Catholic Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religious agression in America has reached an all time high from the Catholic Church and the rest of the Pro-Lifers who now confirm themselves as nothing but Pro-Death of human rights and human beings. The so called Pro-Life movement is up to it's nose in Pro-Slime as it represents the dregs of America. You so called Pro-Lifers in your support of George W. Bush and the Republican Party reveal yourselves to be what you truly are minions of the evil one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I now have to believe that St. Malachy's Prophecy of Popes which predicts the end of the papacy must be near at hand.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-117084765300743991?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117084765300743991'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117084765300743991'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/02/secret-rendition-bushs-america-and.html' title='Secret Rendition, Bush&apos;s America and the Truth About Pro-Death/Pro-Life'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-117071252281147334</id><published>2007-02-05T16:08:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-02-05T19:25:32.376-05:00</updated><title type='text'>R U Selling Your Childrens Future?</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush and the repubs want to privatize everything that the Federal government now does. Thay are starting with Social Security and Medicare, as we have seen, and they will not let go of their agenda until they accomplishit. So I ask, you do you really want Halliburton, Bechtel, Parsons, the Carlyle Group and all the other repub for profit egregiously self serving corporations to control your Social Security or your Medicare. The answer is quite obvious.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason they put forth for doing this privatization is that business can do it more efficiently and therefore do it cheaper. But is that really true. No, it is not, as we all have seen the huge debacle in Iraq caused by these private contractors, who answer to no one as they are not under congressional control. Bush will spend America broke and thus force us into using even more private contractors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even our military is being outsourced. Bush, Cheney and the repubs are dedicated to only one thing Big Business because that is the source of their money which is what gives them the political power they are desparate for. They are getting away with it because most americans are apathetic and do not pay attention to politics. That, my friends is the very reason why every voter must declare themselves 'Independant', as I did. No political partry should ever take your vote for granted by assuming that because you register for one party or the other that they are guaranteed your vote. The repubs are and have been doing that because they know they can depend on the Catholic and white southern Baptist vote, no matter what they do. These two religions have been corrupted by their own blind desires for political power which they beloeve they will get from the rethug party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I rant and rail against the republican party because they are the worst of the worst. But, and here is the big BUT, there is not a huge difference between politicians of either party because they all depend on MONEY from the private sector which now especially under the republican party controls our America. The Oil Industry writes our oil/energy laws and policy, while Big Pharma writes our Medicare Part D laws and policy. They own us , plain and simple; and the cure for this is equally plain and simple but neither party, especially not the repubs who benefit the most,  has the will or the courage to change this system. If it is to be changed 'we the people' will have to do it, and if we wait to long we will soon become so powerless that we will not be able to make the necessary changes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also two religions own us, the Catholic Church, my church and the white southern confederate states Baptists. Both of these religions have sold themselves  and their principles to the REPUBLICAN PARTY. I explain all of this in many previous posts, so read them for more detailed explanations. These religions have sold their principles and their religion for political power. They are no longer religions at all, now they are nothing more than political organizations masquerading as religions. No religion should ever support any political party, it should only stand up for certain select issues. But since Pope John Paul II became pope he changed all of that, he gave America to Ronald Reagan, then Bush41 and now for the last six years he gave us Bush43 with all the death and corruption 43 has caused.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I am stunned that Pope John Paul II is being fast tracked by the Vatican/Pope Benedict XVI to be named a saint of the Catholic Church. It is almost unbelievable and yet at the same time reveals clearly where the mindset of the Vatican is at. The Pope who politicised the Catholic Church should just slip quietly in obscurity not be up for sainthood. The Catholic Church under Popes Pius XI and XII endorsed and supported Hitler and the Nazi Party, could there be anyone who would ever consider that either of these two popes should be considered for sainthood. Just consider the enormous amount of damage and destruction both these popes were not only party to, but were directly responsible for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the present and previous popes are equally guilty for selling Catholicism to the republican party. Just consider the huge amount of support Pope Benedict XVI gave to the Repub party when he spoke so disrespectfully about the Islamic religion. Common, ordinary, everday manners dictate respect for the religion of every other human being on this planet. But it seems that the pope has no such ordinary respect for other human beings or their religion's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been reading "The Daily Muslim Wisdom", from beliefnet for the past almost six years and have found it to be a beautiful religion which is so similar to Catholicism that I was startled and amazed that anyone let alone the pope od the catholic church would say anything against it. And I am still stunned and amazed, Islam is a beautiful religion and has much to teah all of us about how to live and be better people and follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and the laws of God. Islam is an Abrahamaic religion, as are Judaism and Catholicism and Protestantism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a strong sense that these events will bring about the demise or borderline demise of America and the Catholic Church, whereby both of these entities will be nearly crippled and either die or function at totally corrupt or borderline corrupt levels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both the Catholic and white southern Baptist religions are being USED by the repub party, and I believe they know it and have given themselves over to being USED for some promise of political power to change America into their own image and likeness, into a country they want us to become, namely,  "A Totalitarian Republican Theocracy", to quote my self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What these religions may not realize is that they are being promised these things just for the votes they can and will deliver to the republican party, which is by far the more corrupt of the two political parties in America because the repubs are dedicated to nothing more than corporate profits, world power and maintaining their own lifestyle and their own political power, first, last, and foremost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is easy to see that Bush, Cheney and the repubs lie constantly, and they are lying to those religions. It will one day become quite clear to most americans who are willing to pay attention that when the repubs are faced with a choice between doing what is right and what is profitable they will always choose whatever is profitable. However by then it just may be to late for 'we the people' to correct the problem, just as we are right now to late to correct the debacle in Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next debacle of repub-Bush-Cheney aggression, though masked as their efforts to protect Israel but really are nothing more than using military aggression againsat other Middle East countries for their oil. One would think the aforementioned religions and the good people of Israel would be able to see thru this facade of obfuscation, this fog of repub politics. And I believe the Israeli people may have seen thru it as they have made clear demands that they want a fair and lasting peace in the ME. But unfortunately, their gov't listens to them as much as the Bush rethug gov't listens to 'we the people' of America which is to say, not at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The MSM covers for and helps create the 'Fog of Politics' so that unless one digs below the surface the 'Fog' obscures almost everything that the american people need to kn0ow to make rational decisions when they enter the voting booth. And of course corrupt comapnies like Diebold and ES&amp;amp;S along with HAVA are taking away our votes because they cause voting corruption.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As much as I liked Justice Bryer and O'Connor, who now admit the hate they are getting is coming from the religious right(Catholics and white southern Baptist FUNDIES) they are too late in revealing this. I lost almost all respect for the SCOTUS when Reagan was prez. and now under Bush I have absolutely no respect left for the Catholic Republican SCOTUS. Most Catholics do what the pope wants them to do. Which is exactly what Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Aliuto will do on the big issues. Unless the last two Dems on the SCOTUS can hang on for another two years and assuming America does not end up with another Repub prez a Dem prez can put some far less biased people on the SCOTUS. If that does not happen then the SCOTUS will become, not almost useless as it is now, but it will become totally useless. I have no mercy for the SCOTUS as they have proven to be totally rethuglikkkan and all rethugs are dedicated to themselves and their wealth above all else, no mattere the cost in lives or treasure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wrote an email to our local catholic bishop in December, 2005 or January, 2006 asking him to please request that the pope stop forcing his agenda on America because it/he was dividing, polarizing, fracturing and quite possibly destroying America by forming american politics and policy, both foreign and domestic. About a month later the pope issued a letter denying what I said. So either the pope is unaware of what he is doing or just outright lying, and I think he is fully aware of what he is doing. So it is safe to say that the Pope is a Republican even though he is not a citizen of the use and as such he is quite obviously still controlling american politics and policy, both foreign and domestic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since the pope is absolutely certain he KNOWS THE MIND OF GOD(which, of course he does not as only God knows his mind) and is acting upon that mindset the pope has proven himself to be committing the sin of PRIDE. The cure or anitdote for the sin of PRIDE is the virtue of HUMILITY and the pope has shown none of this elst he would never have spoken so disrespectfully of the Islamic religion. In addition that mindset, shared by the white southern Baptists,  is sacrilege, heresy and blasphemy. So the pope has joined the republicans and gone over to the 'darkside' and taken the catholic church with him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I have said before I can see that St. Malachy's Prophecy of the Popes could happen. He prophecied that the papacy would end, either under Pope Benedict XVI or under the next pope. Any religion or any pope that sells himself and his religion for political power seems to be doomed or at the very least quite irrelevant and corrupt.    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Given that the aforementioned continue on their chosen path anyone who adheres to their mindset is truly selling their childrens future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see very little hope for the future of America and no hope for peace in the ME. The only possibility is that hopefully someday the american people, we the ordinary, everyday, average little people engage in a citizens civil revolution and take back our gov't. At that time we must expel divisive forces in America like the two religions and the unlimited power of the corporatocracy and that of the wealthy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, radical evangelical FUNDAMENTALISM, whether it be Catholic, Protestant or Islamic is bad for people. The concept that Islamic Fundamentalism  is bad while the other two are good is totally WRONG. All three are anathema to God and His laws.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is said that satan will make sweet promises to entice people to follow him and Bush, Cheney and the Rethugs have done exactly that. They promise security, prosperity and religion but those are promises they cannot keep or guarantee in any way. Only God can make promises like that, and He has not. He gave us all Free Will, so that we may choose...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;br /&gt;And if that does not work let us take to the streets and take back our country from the wealthy and the corporatocracy, because this war is entirely about them and nothing else.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-117071252281147334?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117071252281147334'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117071252281147334'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/02/r-u-selling-your-childrens-future.html' title='R U Selling Your Childrens Future?'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-117052247671419536</id><published>2007-02-03T11:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-02-03T12:07:56.776-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Enlightenment, Pecuniary Motives or Preparing The Base</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gov. Rick Perry, another of so many corrupt republican Texass politicians(Cornyn, Barton and DeLay et.al.) either became enlightened or... what exactly. Perry just issued an exectuve order that girls in the ages of 12-19 get the new Gardasil vaccine from Merck, I think thats what it's called. This vaccinates young girls from getting the cancer causing Human Papilloma Virus. Which is a good thing, another step forward in medical science and sure to make the lives of women safer from those kinds of cancer while at the same time making a lot of money for Merck the manufacturer of the drug and which has had a very dismal year having it's profits down by 58%. A classic win-win situation. But...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As usual the radical religious right wing absolutist, evangelical FUNDAMENTALISTS are angry. They are always angry about something when they don't get their way and are not able to force, aka evangelize the rest of us, which means they are not able to force their beliefs upon everyone else, such as their beliefs that Gay people are and will be damned and doomed, women seeking abortion and Muslims are damned and doomed  by themselves and God. Of course they know this with 100% certanity because they and only they KNOW THE MIND OF GOD.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These white southern baptists and their staunch allies the catholics THINK THEY KNOW THE MIND OF GOD and will strip everyone else of their rights due to that belief which is sacrilege, heresy, blasphemy and the cardinal sin of PRIDE. "And the worst of these is PRIDE..."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result of their direct line with God, through George Bush no doubt as he claims to be Jesus Christ and chosen by God. These christo-fascists do not want this drug to be marketed for anyone because it will make young girls engage in sexual activity. If they want to preach that in their own churchs and follow those beliefs that is fine with me and at the same time keep their beliefs to themselves and let other parents make their own best decisions for their daughters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The premise underlying their belief is specious at least and totally wrong at worst. Personally I think they are all crazy. If I ahd a daughter I would want her medically protected as much as possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are the same people who don't believe in Global Warming because Jesus Christ Bush their savior, to whom they pray in their Jesus Camps has declared, repeatedly that their is no such thing as Global Warming because his advisor, the novelist says so. Also Bush's cronies in the oil business and in the Bush Family oil business say their is no such thing as Global Warming and we are not destroying the planet by using their oil products. It is these very same people along with Pope John Paul II who put Reagan in office and he then abolished all of Pres. Carters energy conservation laws and initiatives. That Pope and the current Pope must have a lot of money invested in the oil companies, could that be part of this rotten situation which is destroying the world today. Or do the Popes and the catholic church have a lot of money invested in Merck or a Merck competitor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which brings me to my next point and suspicion of Gov. Perry's motives. Has he decided to ignore the radical religious right wing that continues to endorse and support the rethuglikkkan party and make a law which commands the use of this drug not because Perry, one of the 'end timers' and 'dark siders' but because Mr. Perry is beholden(bought and owned) to one of his and the rethug party's main benefactors and sources of almost unlimited money, namely, the Big Pharma Cos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you a 'dark side' repub as nearly all rethugs are suddenly and mysteriously become enlightened, as least on this one issue, or have you given up your publicly stated religious agenda which you want to force on everyone else because you got a call from the drug company Merck and sold yourself to that other devil that you and all rethugs dance with and who owns your soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which is it Rick.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And finally whatever you do Rick please stay out of the Whitehouse alng with your friend Jeb Bush of the Bush Family and their house of corrupt politics because America, the Middle East and the world cannot survive much more of you, the Pope, Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. We know you are driven by Big Religion, Big Business and Big Neocons. Why don't you all move to Paraguay along with the Bush Family and live with your friends the  catholics, catholic nazis and take all the repugs and catholic repugs with you.  There are lots of WWII nazis still in that part of the world who will join you in torturing others just as your friend George Bush is doing here in what was once our America but is now his America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You all belong together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The rest of us need to get on with the business of correcting the damage you and your religious friends have done and it will take us probably twenty years or more, and more if you count in the catholic SCOTUS that the POTUS has brought down upon us.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-117052247671419536?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117052247671419536'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117052247671419536'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/02/enlightenment-pecuniary-motives-or.html' title='Enlightenment, Pecuniary Motives or Preparing The Base'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-117036104574586833</id><published>2007-02-01T14:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-02-01T15:17:25.780-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Molly Ivins, died January 31, 2007</title><content type='html'>America has lost one it's greatest, my hero Molly Ivins who died of breast cancer yesterday, Wednesday, January 31, 2007 at the age of only 62.. She was one of my greatest heros in this time of America's greatest need for her. No one can replace her or step into her shoes. She was incomparable and indomitable. She was without a doubt a journalist's journalist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Never has America had a more valorous and courageous citizen and a hero in the truest and deepest sense of the word. As I sit here with tears dripping down my face my sense of loss and grief are profound. Never in my life have I felt this intense amount of grief and loss. I knew her only through her writings but my sense of loss is painful, physically painful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Molly Ivins was an inspiration of enormous proportion. Molly was only 62 and had so much more to give. She should have and deserved to live for another thirty years at least. And We, I, America needed her for  decades more. She is , and in my mind will always  be irreplaceable. There is no one on this planet I admire more, she was among the few at the top of my very short list of the most admirable Americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America has lost both a daughter and a mother. Without a doubt Molly Ivins was one of God's finest children on this planet. We in America are deeply in her debt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank God for the life and times of Molly Ivins. I will mourn her for a very long time and mourn no one to a greater extent than Molly Ivins.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America has lost a daughter and citizen of incalculable greatness. She is among the greatest of our heroes.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-117036104574586833?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117036104574586833'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117036104574586833'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/02/molly-ivins-died-january-31-2007.html' title='Molly Ivins, died January 31, 2007'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-117000154050348199</id><published>2007-01-28T10:18:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-28T14:35:46.946-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Recent Items, Jan. 27, 2007</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Melinda Gates has announced and begun to take a more active and up front role in the Gates Foundation  charity activities. That could be a good and commendable thing, raising the status of women in the world among other things and putting her personal stamp and that of herself as a woman on the foundation activities. Hopefully highlighting and working on behalf of womens issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But then it all depends on who Melinda Gates is working for. Is it Bill Gates who has, in his long climb to the top stolen so much from so many, because if so she can only make restitution on behalf of his soul, and possibly here soul, by returning to them that which was stolen from them.If she is working on behalf of the republican party, and the holocaust they are causing now she can never make enough restitution for the extreme amount of damage they have done throughout America and the entire world. If she is working on behalf of her church, the catholic church, my church, she will never be able to make restitution for the papal complicity between the church and Hitler and the Nazi Party and the almost countless dead who fought the war and the almost countless dead from the Holocaust. Or the papal complicity with the republican party and the holocaust they are causing now. Though I wish her great luck in relieving suffering and death, I am somewhat skeptical of her motives. Time will reveal all...it often does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have since my undergrad days been and become an ever stronger advocate for women's issues. Women and children cannot be separated, whenever women benefit in this world children also benefit. Call it whatever you like but whatever is done for the benefit of women is done in equal measure to benefit children. And the OPPOSITE IS true in equal measure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lives of women and children are inextricably intertwined and bound together. As women are kept in the second class, or is it third class status so to in equal measure are children. Any one who attempts to separate womens welfare and childrens welfare is doomed to fail both. I say this because more than ever in the USA that exact thing is taking place and it is being done by the so called Pro-Lifers who prove themselves at every turn to be merely Pro-Birth, as they do nothing for the life and welfare of either women or children in their fight to save the embryo/ fetus while at the same time ignore the welfare of women and children.. In their war  they do nothing for women or children and that is quite clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God in His infinite wisdom has made women the primary caretakers of children. That is one of my firmest beliefs. Those who keep women in their perpetual second/third class status keep children in a perpetual second/third class status. This is something all male dominated religions do, which is to say all religions that I am aware of. To me, that is without any doubt one of the greatest sins of mankind and will continue to be as long as it persists. And when, if ever, the second/third class status that women have been and are forced into ends, all mankind, meaning all men will have achieved and satisfied what is quite possibly the greatest task that God has set before us as human beings. Moreover, the concept of Pro-Life in it's widest sense and fullness of meaning will be accomplished. We must fight against the FORCES OF DARKNESS that prevent this from happening. The Sermon on the Mount speaks to this in a most clear way. I believe that is the fullness of meaning embodied in The Sermon... Clearly, to me, 'do unto others' means  all others including women, children, muslims, jews, buddhists etc.etc,  exactly that and ALL of that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Confucius, Hilel, Jesus and the Prophet all spoke so clearly about this idea that it's meanig requires no interpretation and allows no interpretation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The so called Pro-Lifers, don't know the meaning of Pro-Life, in the meaning of the word or the concept it seems to imply. The must have gotten the word from the likes of Karl Rove, George Bush, Dick Cheney or Adolf Hitler all of whom are the architects of the disasters that have befallen America and the world. Rove, Bush, Cheney, the republican(or rethuglikkkan) party and all their voters and their supporters in Big Religion(radical right wing evangelical FUNDAMENTALIST Jihadists that they are) including the white southern confederate states baptists(Robertson and Falwell ad infinitum) and the popes both previous and current of the catholic church, my church, ( and I want it back from them and their minions), are the very ones who are committing the corruption of mixing religion and politics which is forbidden by Jesus and by our cherished U.S. Constitution, now badly shredded by Bush and the rethug party and the aforementioned minions. As I was saying these people either don't understand the meaning of Pro-Life or are using that term in a very narrow and selective way, which may be the case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To them Pro-Life may/must mean really only Pro-Birth and nothing else. While to me I regard that term in a much broader all encompassing way. To me Pro-Life means doing whatever one can to promote a culture of life for ALL PEOPLE and the plants and the animals and planet earth. While to them Pro-Life is used in a very narrow and self selective way/meaning, namely, meaning only Pro-Birth and nothing else. Which may/must be the case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since they seem to all support the rethug party, clearly the political party that uses the term in it's most narrow  meaning. Because the rethug party is without a doubt the Pro-Death party. In fact they are Pro-Death in it's widest meaning,  including the death of everything but the embryo/fetus. The rethug party is only Pro-Greed toward money and political power and embryo/fetus's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That must be why I have misunderstood the so called Pro-Lifers because they are really only Pro-Life/Pro-Greed as far as money, political power and the embryo/fetus are concerned. As are their staunch supporters in the catholic and white baptist religions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If that is true and all things point to that as being true, then I finally understand their actions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I totally disagree with them, I think of Pro-Life as an all encompassing concept and issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think of Pro-Life as an all encompassing concept and issue.  repeated for emphasis&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I deplore and abhor the killing of people, women, children or the planet for nothing more than their unquenchable thirst and endless Greed for money and political power. This is what they mean when they(Bush41 and Bush43 et.al.) speak about their desire to freeze us all into their "A New World Order" which is to force us all into their idea of what the world must be/become.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The light may sometimes dawn slowly but it does dawn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At least until the rethugs, catholics and white baptists end all life because of their desire to make their rapture come true.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So be it. The battle lines are drawn and I am not on their side, in fact I am diametrically opposed to their thinking. The repubs, the Pope, the catholic voters and the white baptists are all FUNDAMENTALIST JIHADISTS and nothing more because of their Pro-Birth and Pro-Death and Pro-Greed agenda and mindset.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their is no room on this planet for the FUNDAMENTALIST JIHADISTS of any religion but God put them here and He is infinitely wise. So they must be here for a reason. Mayhap their presence is a 'test', an obstacle, a task God has placed before us, one which we must overcome/ defeat in order to earn the right to enter His Kingdom. God gave us all free will, which is  that each of us has the right to make our own choice. For those who would deprive us, each of us, the right of choice they then are guilty of denying  us all of our God given right to choose which is the same as taking away from us our God given soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any who would take away our soul  must be minions of the Darkness,  not purveyors of light, the light of God. The endarkenment is clearly upon us and all about us here in America, with their false promises and guarantees of wealth and security. They are making promises that they cannot keep and thus are misleading. Security must be EARNED, it cannot be guaranteed under the cloud of fear that they themselves generate. Fear mongering clouds mens minds, strips us of our freedoms of choice and thought and therefore takes our very souls from us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whatever God, the good, merciful and loving God that I believe in has planned for them I know not. All I can say is that come judgement day I'm glad I am not in their shoes and won't have to answer for their actions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kind, humble, gentle, always respectful and freely giving(with no evangelizing/proselytizing) religion is capable of accomplishing such a huge amount  seemingly unlimited amount of good in this world but actually often goes far astray and actually accomplishes so little. In fact it often  as now adds to the damage and chaos in the world just as it is doing right now via it's support of the republican party; despite the fact that Jesus and our Constitution forbid the merging of church and state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many of my favorite people are not religious at all and yet many others are. Some of my favorite people include Jimmy and Rosalind Carter, Bill Moyers, Phil Donohue and his wife Marlo Thomas, Danny Thomas, Jim Wallis, Noam Chompsky, George Lakoff, Afif Safieh,  Amy Goodman, Juan Gonzales, Jon Stewart, Stepehen Colbert, Keith Olbermann, Lou Dobbs, Jack Cafferty, E.J. Dionne, Fr.  Michael Pfleger of St. Sabina Church in Chicago, Mark Shields of PBS, Geoffery Nunberg, Norman Finkelstein, Lisa Randall(physicist), Schwarz&amp;amp;Green(British physicists who invented String Theory), Edward Witten(Princeton physicist, Institute for Advanced Study, Brian Greene, Richard Feynman(physicist), Lise Meitner(physicist), Ramanujan(self taught mathematician, extraordinary) Paul Wellstone et.al.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God save us all from the aforementioned who work for the forces of darkness and thus have themselves BECOME THE FORCES OF DARKNESS.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-117000154050348199?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117000154050348199'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/117000154050348199'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/01/recent-items-jan-27-2007.html' title='Recent Items, Jan. 27, 2007'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116914886528669080</id><published>2007-01-18T12:52:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-01-18T15:06:53.216-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bush, Rethugs And The Popes Repression Of Rights And Freedoms</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you all know I am an Independant voter, a conservative person by nature, conservative on issues such as, don't mess with our/my cherished Constitution, small gov't, open/transparent gov't, politicians must tell the truth to the american people and should be punished when they don't, the rights and freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution, gov't by, for and of the people, 'forming a more perfect union', criticism of our gov't when it move in the direction of a LESS PERFECT UNION, the use of taxpayer dollars in efficient and humanitarian ways ie the use of taxpayer dollars to benefit the taxpayers and citizens of America, against tax dollars being use for corporate welfare, against welfare for the rich, against tax dollars going to any religions especially those certain select religions that support the republican party and the Bush gov't which are the Catholic Church, my church and any other evangelical fundamentalist jihadist religions like the Catholic Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words I, though an Independant voter, am against almost everything that the Bush gov't and the Rethuglikkkan Party stand for. In fact I despise the aforementioned, including my church and the previous and current popes for the damage and destruction they are causing to  my/our beloved America and to Iraq and Afghanistan and throughout the world. These groups are hell bent on sending us all to our deaths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church hierarchy including the Vatican and the USCCB, and especially the popes are totally committed to the Rethuglikkkan Party(sold out my religion for political power) which is an abomination unto God and woman/man thus guaranteeing catholic votes to the rethug party which allows the rethugs(Reagan, Bush41 and Bush43) to do anything they want and allowing them to do anything they want with no fear because of catholic and papal support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As some of you may know it was Pope John Paul II who opened the rethug box of vipers that is totally dedicated to war, killing, death and maiming. He did this by dedicating and aligning the church with the rethug party shortly after Reagan became prez and that alliance between the church and catholic voters and rethug party continues on to this very day unabated and with full vehemence, bordering on viciousness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, I USED to belong to the largest catholic mens organization in america. That organization is financing a group that is attempting to get legislation enacted that will outlaw ALL abortions no matter what the reason including the health of the woman/mother.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are some Central and South American countries where those laws already exist because the Catholic Church demanded them, and got them. The result, just a few weeks ago a woman(Jiminez Borjoge) died because of that law. The catholic prelate in that country, who was directly responsible for getting that law just recently enacted, now  has the direct responsibility for the death of that woman on his soul and will carry that stain on his soul to judgement day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He and the Pope are equally responsible for that death, how will thay make restitution for the crime and horrendous sin they both committed. I'm glad that is not on my conscience I could not live with that knowledge and guilt and would commit suicide. Does this prelate or the pope care, I would bet not. They never even think about it, because they think and act as if they KNOW THE MIND OF GOD. It seems to me, they areboth guilty of sacrilege, heresy, blasphemy and the cardinal sin of PRIDE because they THINK THEY KNOW THE MIND OF GOD.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They just may not know what they think they know. Both of these men are not only deeply guilty of sin but they are criminals as well. This entire situation and the surety with which these men act and cause others to act and follow their example not only disgusts me but makes me physically ill, if I think to much about what they do and have done not only in this instance but in so many others of the same kind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am equally disgusted by the acts and behaviors of both popes for totally aligning the catholic church with the rethuglikkkan party, as both of them are directly complicit in everything the rethug party does. I'm can't imagine how they will explain that on judgement day. And what is equally disgusting and sickening is that John Paul II is being fast tracked for sainthood, how sick  is that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The rethug party and Bush are not doing what they are doing in my name because I have vehemently and repeatedly expressed that in the public media. But the rethug party and Bush are doing what they are doing to damage america and the world in the names of both popes and every catholic and everyone who votes for them or actively endorses them in any way, or even passively endorses them by not speaking out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The latest sickening act by the Bushies and rethugs(Rick Santorum, Sam Brownback etc. ad nauseam) is the comments made by Charles D. Stimson who threatend every lawyer and actually every citizen in america when he commented that lawyers who defend Gitmo detainees should, in effect be shunned by american corporations for doing so, which threatens their income and thus their families. That is another HUGE step by the Bushies/rethugs and the Pope in stripping american lawyers and all americans of their fundamental human rights granted by God and our Constitution. That statement must strike fear and hesitancy in the hearts of those lawyers and every lawyer in america who works on behalf of justice for those unable to defend themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when the pope vehemently pushs his so called Pro-Life agenda on my america I will keep repeating that he and the other catholics are really ONLY Pro-Birth and Pro-Death; of rights, freedoms, the life of Jiminez Borjoge(and how many other women who like children are the most powerless in the world, especially compared to the power of the popes and his cohorts in the rethug party and Bushie gov't).   Their Pro-death agenda kills Iraqis and Afghanis, american troops and the hopes of their families, and maims many more dooming them to a lifelong slow death. Their Pro-Death agenda keeps millions of people in Mexico in deep poverty becuase the Pope does not speak out against the endlessly corrupt and criminal gov't of Mexico. Instead the Pope supports the Rethug party in america who sent Dick Morris(rethug political strategist) to Mexico to employ rethug strategies of fear into the minds of Mexican voters directly causing the loss of the election to Lopez Obrador who clearly was dedicated to stopping poverty in Mexico instead of making U.S. Corporations even richer. That is NOT, NOT, NOT Pro-Life, that is a lifetime of slow Pro-Death via unending poverty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those who don't know, and I am sure the pope is one of them, it takes three generations for the average family to recover from the residual effects of a family member who has war zone trauma/experience. So for hundreds of thousands of american, Iraqi and Afghani families these residues will be with them unto three generations, that is 60yrs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same stats apply to Pope Pius XI and Pius XII who endorsed and supported Hitler and the Nazi Party, resulting in the Holocaust which is burned into the minds of most Jews(and my mind) and which has directly caused or at least greatly contributed to the troubles in the Middle East between Israel and the Arab nations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The results of the Holocaust directly contributed to the Neocons in america and the great damage and destruction they are doing to america and throughout the world as they work aggressively for the projection of U.S. military power and hegemony throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So Pius XI and Pius XII stop that if you can.&lt;br /&gt;So Pope John Paul and Benedict XVI stop what you have started, if you can.&lt;br /&gt;The entire world is in peril and many parts of the Middle East are in flames directly due to YOU.&lt;br /&gt;How can you four men ever even begin to make restitution?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, don't anyone send me an email saying the Popes have spoken out against the war. Speaking out is not nearly enough, they MUST stop what THEY started and help maintain. And exactly what was their reasons for doing all that they have done, surely it can't be their hatred against Gays or women seeking abortion, what is their agenda for america and the world. You two popes are an integral part of the Bush/Rethug cabal bent on death for PROFIT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speak to us all Pope Benedict, explain yourself, don't just hide in your palace and speak ill about other peoples religions(Islam) when your own religion and mine is guilty of so much horror and abomination in the past(WWII, the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition) and in the present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wow, you have a lot to account for.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116914886528669080?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116914886528669080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116914886528669080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2007/01/bush-rethugs-and-popes-repression-of.html' title='Bush, Rethugs And The Popes Repression Of Rights And Freedoms'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116757982378486825</id><published>2006-12-31T08:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-31T12:02:13.400-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So much is happening, so quickly that it's difficult to know where to start and what to comment on because I want to comment on so many things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheney commented on ford's willingness to pardon Nixon, as if that was a good thing, when all it accomplished is the huge damage to our nation wrought by Reagan, Bush 41 and worst of all Bush43/Cheney. So I guess Cheney is looking for a pardon and/or preparing 'we the people' for what Bush is going to do. I've made my thoughts on that pretty clear in a previous entry. To reiterate, presidential pardons must never be allowed again, at least not until there is a full and detailed investigation and proof of guilt. How stupid does Cheney think we are, this man is so full of arrogance and elitist thinking that he must think he is the only one that has a brain. He is the only one that has his brain which is so corrupt and unamerican that no one else would want his brain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NEXT:  There were so few Ford mourners because he was an unelected vice and president, and because he stunned the nation when he pardoned Nixon which then gave america Reagan, Bush41 and Bush43.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Justice Department(DOJ, Alberto Gonzales) is investigating the  Dept. of the Interior's taking of bribes for allowing energy companies to pay insufficient and late mineral royalties. The problem with that is the fox is investigating the henhouse, ie. how little will it reveal and how much will it cover up. The DOJ and Alberto Gonzales do Bush's repub party work and they are all corrupt criminals; which we have been seeing since Reagan took office and especially since Bush 43 became prez. The DOJ and Sgt. Gonzales of the Air Force Academy crimes can never be trusted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No politician should ever be in charge of investigating it's own political party unless that political party has proven itself to be honest, and the republicans/Bushies are the most egregiously corrupt and dishonest party in the history of the U.S. Nor should any political party be allowed to choose an independant prosecuter as did the rethugs did when they chose Patrick Fitzgerald, who is a Catholic and therefore most likely a republican and therefore should not be investigating republican corruption. Even if he is a Dem is he really just a DINO, like Lieberman. It would be the same thing as the Catholic church investigating itself and what it did during WWII. I would want and only accept the findings of Jewish scholars who investigated the Church's actions during WWII and only if the Jewish scholars had FULL ACCESS TO ALL RECORDS. Also this committee of Jewish scholars would have to include at least a few very skeptical Jews.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nixon started the repub party on the path of the imperial and unitary executive and via Ford's pardon it continues to this very day and will do so until Bush/Cheney/Repubs are out of office and greatly reduced in political power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some writers and posters on a variety of sites have just lately, very lately been saying that Bush is not a christian as he has often proclaimed. But he is a christian as proclaimed by others of his ilk, especially the Catholic Church, my church( but most certainly not me) and their allies the white southern confederate states Baptists. Both of these religions are absolutist evangelical fundamentalist jihadist religions, and just like the muslim jihadists they endorse a radical form of religion and  are willing to destroy america for their beliefs, as well as our troops and the Iraqi citizens and pregnant women seeking an abortion  and gays seeking a life. And yet you religious fundies turn a totally blind eye to the porn and corrupt behaviors of the republican party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was shocked the other day when I actually heard one priest say that american laws are to be obeyed, does this guy realize that he is in direct opposition to the Pope, The Vatican and the USCCB. He will probably be denied the sacraments by his bishop or at least threatened with that outcome just as Sen. Kerry was. What would Cardinal McCarrick, Archbishop Mahoney, Tim Russert, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Rupert Murdoch, Rick Santorum, Fr. Richard John Neuhaus and so many other republicans think of/ judge that priest and say about him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They would/will of course damn him for such a comment since they KNOW the mind of God because they talk to George Bush who talks directly to his god(small g) from which all real and true knowledge flows, because Bush is righteous, born again, from Texass and talks to the Pope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course I'm speaking about their disrespectful and narrow minded way of seeing the U.S. and the entire world. These people don't care about the U.S. or human beings they only care about their self centered agenda which they want to force upon everyone else no matter the cost to america or the world in lives, just as long as they get their way and deny the God given Free Will of every other human being on the planet. Religion and politics are the same thing to these people. These people have such unmitigated arrogance and disrespect for other human beings that they will get their way by the use of guns or constitutional amendments or the SCOTUS or just plain old erosion of our democratic values and institutions. But then the rest of us , the unwashed masses, have no souls, rights or freedoms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So 'we the people' lose our sanctity as human beings, our souls and our God given Free Will because these aforementioned people have and use their enormous political power to deny us these things via their prez georgie boy Bush and their political party the rethuglikkkans whose allegiance is to no one but themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To qoute myself, the "Three Pillers" of the republican party are the corporatocracy, the neocons and the theocons/theocrats. I wonder what will happen to these aforementioned theocons when they discover what the rest of us, the unwashed masses, have known since the days of Reagan and especially since the days before 9/11 that Bush is only a christian because he says so and because they say so. When in the fullness and light of true reality Bush is not a christian at all but really nothing more than a CON MAN who will do and say anything just to get votes and political power  for himself and the rethug party. And he is only a christian in the sense that his form of christianity is exactly the same as the aforementioned corrupters of the teachings of Jesus Christ as they bend those teachings to benefit themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Should the aforementioned ever remember Christ's admonition AGAINST the merging of church and state(render to caesar...render to God...) as well as our Constitutional law which forbids the merging of church and state, and should they ever let the light of day enter their closed minds they will finally see that Bush is not in the least a christian. Bush is like all republicans (just look at the core agenda of the republican party and it's conservative agenda where they clearly reveal exactly who and what their real values are) he is dedicated to only two things, the first two 'Pillers'(corporatocracy and neconservatism) of the republican party, namely,  money and political military power and will continue killing even to the point of plunging the entire world into nu-ku-ler war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can't wait until you folks discover that Bush and the rethugs are only USING you and your voters to get what he/they want, and otherwise give not a damn for your religious values. Do you people actually think you count more than the drug companies or oil companies in the minds of Bush or any rethugs for that matter. Do you actually think that a party that is driven solely for money and political power has any real christian values, if so a rude awakening awaits you. Do you people actually think that if the drug companies come up with a pill that will make them billions of dollars but is in clear violation of the laws of God and teachings of Christ that Bush and the rethug party will fall back on religious values to form their policy about whether or not to allow the marketing of that drug they will adhere to religious values to make their decision.&lt;br /&gt;You people on the religious right align yourselves with people like Danforth, Ashcroft and the Conservative Christian Coalition(CCC). So Pope Benedict look it up and see what you have aligned yourself and the Catholic Church with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So to Pope Benedict and John Paul before, you can see exactly what you have wrought as you have delivered us all, not just yourselves, into the hands of this unholy alliance you have created.&lt;br /&gt;You deserve what you have wrought but the rest of us do not deserve any of this diabolical and satanic situation. You are blinded by the siren song and sweet promises of the completely unholy and sociopathic George Bush and his party of crime and corruption. What you two men have done in the name of God can never be undone as you have set America and the entire world on the path of destruction and endless death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And you dare to call yourselves Pro-Life, you are a false Pro-Life which in reality hides your Pro-Death agenda. Just as Pius XI and Pius XII did when they endorsed and supported Hitler and the Nazi party prior to WWII. And how will they ever make restitution for what they did then and how will you ever make restitution for what you do now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The death of the Jews as a result of the Holocaust then and the death of the Iraqi and Afghani Muslims now can never be made right. You fault Muslim fundamentalist jihadists and I fault them as well but I equally fault your fundamentalist jihadism, which is no different as you are directly complicit in the deaths of Iraqis and Afghanis and american troops and our american democracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to know what you should and must be doing just give me a call. Meanwhile I will pray that God, not your george bush, will either remove both of you from power or somehow help you see the light of respect, decency and humanity toward all of His children, INCLUDING Muslims and Jews. And I pray for deliverance from the horrors you have wrought and visited upon all of us, the children of a loving God. And please learn a little humility, your allies in the white southern evangelical fundamentalists will never learn any humility, their puritanical mindset is based on aggressiveness, hostility, hate, intolerance and their belief in a God to be feared just as they spread their own fear everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116757982378486825?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116757982378486825'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116757982378486825'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/dear-all-so-much-is-happening-so.html' title=''/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116734321224562153</id><published>2006-12-28T15:12:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-31T12:18:45.093-05:00</updated><title type='text'>More Consultation=More of The Same</title><content type='html'>Bush&amp;Co said that he was going to seek more consultation before he makes his January announcements about Iraq. That tells me the change in congressional power is already making itself felt and the Dems have not even been sworn in yet. It also tells me that the ruthugs and georgie boy need more time to develop a Rovespin strategy to slide whatever slimy strategy they are going to propose about escalating the war in Iraq, or the bombing of Iran, or some other corrupt and criminal dishonest and lying bit of misdirection/misleading action they want to perform and just how they will suck the Dems into a no-win situation where they will be damned if they do and damned if they don't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also has anyone noticed that the MSM Rovespin screaming rhetoric has come down a notch or two. Joe Scarborough has been critiquing Mr. Booosh on a single segment of his program whereby he will stop the Rovespin and include some truth, some critique and some honest comment reflecting some of the ideas and feelings of the american people, us Independants and the Dems  who do not follow the Republican Party line which he(Scarborough) has always endorsed in the past because he is another staunch republican. Also even Tucker Carlson spends a tiny amount of  time giving voice to those of us who refuse to obey and submit to republican domination. Tucker has even gone so far as to stop wearing his bowtie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The worst of the MSM, Fox News and Glenn Beck are the same. There may be no hope for them. Blindness and stupidity still remain as the hallmarks of their opinion commentary. Although I may have seen some nearly microscopic evidence of a door opening and letting in the sunlight of slivers of truth which appear embedded in ocassional statements. But Fox and Glenn Beck, both endless and monotonous trashers of the truth and of the fact that others have  differing opinions have to make a sea change and a galactic leap before they gain any credilibity. It is no wonder that Fox's ratings continue to slip, while those of MSNBC go up thanks to Keith Olbermann.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The up coming congressional  changes may have even had a tiny effect on one catholic priest, as he actually remarked that America is a nation of laws which are to be followed. I will take this as his being a rogue priest because the Catholic Church has never made a single statement to that effect. Nor has it ever recognized that other human beings in America and elsewhere in the world, especially the Middle East have any legitimacy or right to life. So far the Catholic, Baptist, Republican death machine(Pro-Death machine) still denies the existence, spirituality or soul of anyone but themselves as they continue on their path of death and destruction and blind self absorption in their absolutist and narrow minded and highly selective beliefs to the exclusion of all other peoples and all other ideas. To them I say, FIND ANOTHER WAY, which is all inclusive and then use the long forgotten, by them, concepts of RESPECT and maybe even a bit of love to spread their ideas. Because they are destroying America and our legal structure via those diabolical people like, John Ashcroft, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo, Harriet Miers and the entire cabal of corrupt catholic and evangelical fundamentalist lawyers . And then their is that law professor from Notre Dame who reasoning sounds almost as twisted as that of Karl Rove, but thtas another entry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The entire Bush/Republican admin which has our country locked in a stranglehold are a diabolical, almost stanic , cabal of Neocons, Theocons/Theocrats; of  Catholics, White southern Baptists fundies, Texans, Floridians(ala Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, Joe Scarborough etc) Ohioans like Ken Blackwell, Mike DeWine and that woman who was his aide, Jean Schmidt, Rob Portman who is giving America away to the Chinese, Deborah Pryce, the N-twins of Ney and Noe, Boehnert, Taft and all their corrupt friends at Diebold with their e-voting machines and then their is the righteous in the State of Michigan like Peter Hoekstra and their/his/Republican HAVA Law that demands the use of the Diebold and other Repub controlled e-voting machines all of which somehow amazingly just seem to discriminate against the Dem voters and favor Rethug voters, imagine that. But the righteous in those states and the states of Missouri, like Danforth and the righteous of Kansas like Brownback and Roberts are among the very worst.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The righteous of the deep south and the and those of Missouri and Kansas are little more than KKK, white supremacists and racists, like Ashcroft of the Conservative Christian Coalition and his good friend Danforth both of who claim to be religious and/or ministers. Like the Catholics, my religion but not me, these people have no idea of the message of Jesus Christ and the laws of God as the go about spreading the  mentality of white superiority and the lynchings of blacks, the stains of which can never be erased from their souls. These are the people who use religion for politics and politics for religion. Which the teachings of Christ and the laws of our  nation and our cherished but now badly shredded U.S. Constitution forbid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is clear to me that the conflation of religion and politics is strictly forbidden by the teachings of Jesus but then these kind of people care nothing about the teachings of Christ(they worship at the altar of the false christ(small c) George Bushand at the altar of the idolatry of their own aggrandizement) or the admonition of our Constitution, for they have formed THEIR OWN diabolically distorted RELIGION of hate and intolerance  despite the fact that Jesus clearly set before us THE TASK OF LOVE FOR OTHERS. Which task is one of the many things we must do for our personal salvation, but they and the Pope care nothing about those tasks as he speaks so blatantly, egregiously and disrespectfully of Islam in support of Bush, the Republican Party and his white southern confederate states fundamentalist brethern with whom he is so staunchly aligned and endlessly supportive of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there is the entire Repub party who vote and speak as of one mind/consciousness like the 'Borg' of Startrek fame who also speak as if from a single amorphous consciousness. These include most especially the likes of the northern repub cabal of Hagal, Hatch, Lugar, Hoekstra&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116734321224562153?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116734321224562153'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116734321224562153'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/more-consultationmore-of-same.html' title='More Consultation=More of The Same'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116723788296246701</id><published>2006-12-27T10:09:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-27T11:44:43.013-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Gerald Ford, What He Did And The Results Are Still Reverberating</title><content type='html'>Dear Readers,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;President Ford just died. To me he was a decent president, but he made a mistake and it was a huge one which has come back to haunt us, America, 'we the people' many times over through the Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43 presidencies. Ford's mistake was that he pardoned Nixon and by doing so the american people never learned via a proper and detailed investigation that would have revealed all the crimes and near crimes that Nixon and the republican party did,  and so they continue on to this very day and now are endemic to the republican party and probably will always be a part of republican politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These repub party criminal strategies that they got away with under Nixon , and thanks to Gerald Ford's pardon, have done continuous damage to america via Reagan, Bush 41 and now worst of all Bush 43. And now resulting in the near loss of our democracy and the shredding of our cherished Constitution under Repub party rule and Bush and the Bush family,  soon to be extended in 2008 under McCain and/or Jeb Bush. So the damage is far from over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't believe the Dems will ever be able to completely undo the enormous damage done by republicans since the Reagan and Pope John Paul II/ Catholic Church conspiracy with the republican party and the Reagan administration, through Bush 41 and the Catholic Church conspiracy and now through Bush 43 and the papal conspiracy with the republican party that will probably never end. The republican party and the Catholic Church, my church, will never stop, they will just keep coming back and endlessly doing the same thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even should the Dems gain the presidency in 2008 it will take at least 20yrs or more for them to undo the damage done, especially in the last six years.  The republican catholic religio-political agenda has so very deeply embedded it's tentacles into the minds of enough americans, though they be a small minority are a very angry minority who have successfully strangled the rest of us americans that we are largely helpless to do very much about these angry, hateful, intolerant and self righteous people who have proven time and again to be arrogant, smug, self satisfied, uncivilised and almost totally disrespectful of people and the laws of America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are so many examples of this rampant disrespect for everyone elses humanity, ranging from the unilateral and unprovoked attack on Iraq to the smug words of Cardinal McCarrick and Archbishop Mahoney that the clergy had full intentions to disobey the laws of america, as they seek to turn us into a lawless nation whereby the powerful in America will pick and choose the laws they will follow and the laws they will not follow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are succeeding at tearing down our nation of laws and the result will be the destruction of the very fabric of our society. All of this leaves me and many millions of americans full of anger and in my case almost total despair that America will ever again be a nation on a THOUGHTFUL and CAREFUL mission to do good around the world. So the religions of Catholicism and the white southern racist Baptists both of whom are totally convinced that they KNOW THE MIND OF GOD and will stop at nothing to force it down the throats not just of their own congregations but down the throats of every american and every citizen of the world and especially of the Middle East via military action, laws and probably Constitutional Amendments which will harm people and our nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see absolutely no hope and feel completely helpless to do anything to stop this cabal of Theocons/Theocrats and the Republican party. I want out of this world and fortunately for me that will come soon enough as I am, to use the old expression, a dead man walking. As is my beloved America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I somehow feel certain that those who use religion for political purposes will have to answer for their abomination either in this life or the next. Humility, respect for the sanctity of every human being(including arabs and muslims) and civility are anathema to the aforementioned Theocons/Theocrats and their republican cohorts/allies who will force their views of everything and everyone created by our heavenly father, God,  upon everyone He has created thus stripping us all of our HUMANITY and FREE WILL endowed upon us all by the Creator, who is not George Bush nor the Pope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These last two men are mere mortals and nothing more. They do not speak for God, no one speaks for God except for God Himself. Their sin of PRIDE is far beyond anything one can imagine as their sin is so HUGE because their power is so HUGE. And because of this conflation of their cardinal sin of PRIDE coupled with their extreme POWER they drag us all down to their level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We, the children of God have been STRIPPED of our FREE WILL by these two men, George Bush and the Pope.  Just as we have been STRIPPED of our God given FREE WILL  we have also been STRIPPED of our HUMANITY which means that we have been STRIPPED of our very SOULS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am an Independant voter and owe nothing to either political party in the U.S. My only concern for what is going on in America and being done to the American people is that anytime a politician lies to the american people he/she is corrupt and a criminal. Our gov't is supposed to be 'by, for and of the people'. So as an Independant voter, anytime a politician says something my response is 'Prove It'. Ever since Vietnam I no longer trust politicians and demand proof of everything they say. And now we have an entire political party full of liars who speak with one mind and one voice all saying exactly the same thing thus STRIPPING the american people, the american voter the ability to make his/her own decisions, independant of coercion and misinformation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE, but I'm no longer sure that prayer without action will accomplish anything, as our nation of laws is ending under the onslaught of Bush, the Republican party and the Theocons/Theocrats, whichever term you prefer.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116723788296246701?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116723788296246701'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116723788296246701'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/gerald-ford-what-he-did-and-results.html' title='Gerald Ford, What He Did And The Results Are Still Reverberating'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116638351744437035</id><published>2006-12-17T13:48:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-17T14:25:17.516-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Not much chance for peace in the middle east...</title><content type='html'>I am reading that 29 different religious groups are working together to work toward peace in the Middle East. Unfortunately there are three huge impediments to that ever happening and they are the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops(USCCB, aka the Catholics) the warhawks in Israel who refuse to listen to the majority of the Jewish people who want peace, and the U.S. warhawks including Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld/Gates,  the Republican Part and most especially the Neocons and finally the Theocons/Theocrats in America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Theocons include the USCCB which is controlled by Pope Benedict XVI of the Catholic Church, my church, and those people are dedicated, totally committed, staunch  Republicans who support the Republican party over which Bush and Cheney have total control because like the Catholic Church is a monolithic organization . These two dogmatic, absolutist and monolithic organizations are  completely intertwined and in bed with each other, so to speak. As such the Catholic Church gives complete support and  endorsement to the Bush/Republican Party which is a war machine constantly stirring up the Middle East, keeping it boiling and on the edge of war because Bush&amp;Co. want war in the ME and want even more than is going on  right now in Iraq. These people must be delighted at the war in Lebanon that occurred this past June, the recent upsurge in fighting among Hamas and Fatah in Palestine(this coalition of religion and warhawks is most likely to be responsible for these events). So the Catholic Church and the Pope in giving their support to the Republican Party and the Bush war machine are directly complicit(just as the Catholic Church was involved with putting Hitler and the Nazis into power in 1933)  in every bit of war and killing and maiming that the Bushies, Repubs and Neocons are causing. As long as the Repub party has the Pope and the Catholics on their side they will not stop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that is the problem which almost guarantees that there will be no peace in the ME. If 'we the people' who are constantly demanding peace ever expect to get peace in the ME we will have to throw the Pope and the Catholic Church out of our country and remove the Bushies, the Bush family and the Republican party out of their stranglehold control over our government. Anything less and there will be little or no chance for the end to the killing or any peace in the ME.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116638351744437035?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116638351744437035'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116638351744437035'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/not-much-chance-for-peace-in-middle.html' title='Not much chance for peace in the middle east...'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116628141815186060</id><published>2006-12-16T08:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-16T10:13:36.190-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, It Has Started...Bush And His Supporters...</title><content type='html'>Well we all knew that it would not take very long and it hasn't. Bush has started attacking Bolivia and the government of Evo Morales, a democratically elected one, using the CIA to destabilize it. They have gotten the Santa Cruz Civic Committee to begin protests against the Morales gov't. So once again, as so many times in the past, the CIA has begun the process of stirring up trouble so as to begin destabilizing that gov't because it is a gov't of the people rather than a gov't of U.S corporations. All in the name of the Texass oil companies, who after the election of Mr. Morales, lost their domination and stranglehold control over Bolivia's oil and gas resources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has begun, it was inevitable and the indigenous people of Bolivia will pay the many prices that will be exacted by the Bush administration using the tax dollars of the american people and in the name of 'American Interests'. There is that famous phrase once again, heard 'round the world and repeated constantly by the Bush administration  over the last six years, and used to justify anything and everything done that results in the torture, maiming and killing of innocent people and the destruction of families in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as so very many of our beloved and brave troops and their families.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this is why the Catholic Church and the Pope so staunchly support the Republican party and the Bush administration. Just to endorse more killing just as the Church supported Hitler and the Nazi Party and we all know what they did  causing the Holocaust and the maiming and deaths  of all those who fought in that war and the still on-going damage to their families and as a result to all of us , not only the people of of America, but people throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we have not only George Bush to blame but we can thank the Pope of the Catholic Church, my church, for yet another huge catastrophe in the world. So , thanks Ratzinger-Benedict, as you wreak another havoc upon us all in 'The Family of Man' and especially the innocent peoples of Bolivia as you continue your staunch support of the Republican party and George Bush. Your endless support  and the endless support by Pope John Paul of the Republican Party yet again causes death and destruction. Look at your face in the mirror and KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING; not for God but only for yourself. May God our  Father save us all from the likes of you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And while I am writing this entry, you may credit yourself Benedict for the death of Jiminez Bojorge and her unborn baby, in Nicarauga last week. You have done another evil you good and faithful servant, not of God but of yourself and the Catholic Church, as you once more promote death and destruction in complete violation of all that is holy and in complete violation of your RESPONSIBILITY TO THE FAMILY OF MAN, all of whom are God's children. So Benedict, just continue on with your politics and your path of destruction but remember you really do it only for yourself. Don't lay your corrupt actions at God's door, ie. don't blame what YOU do on God. You are no better than George Bush and in fact you are far worse because you of all people should know better, but obviously you satisfy only yourself while the peoples of the world pay the ultimate price for what YOU DO. You are as corrupt as George Bush because instead of standing up to him you actually endorse and support him and the Republican Party. God may forgive you but I do not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems possible that something may be brewing in Chile as there were protests at Pinochet's funeral. We will have to wait, time will tell.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then we have the Lebanon destruction due to the war attitudes of George Bush/ The Republican Party and the warhawks in Israel who continue to drag most Jewish people into yet another war which they do not support and you Benedict continue to support George Bush and the Republican Party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now we have Fatah and Hamas fighting each other. Did your support of George Bush and your Republican Party in America cause that or in anyway contribute to that happening, my guess is yes, your support of the Republican Party and Bush led directly to the latest fighting and killing in Palestine because warhawk Bush/Republicans support the warhawks in Israel and they made or at least helped this to occur.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Benedict, SHAME on you, is there not an ounce of christianity or humility left in your soul?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116628141815186060?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116628141815186060'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116628141815186060'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/well-it-has-startedbush-and-his.html' title='Well, It Has Started...Bush And His Supporters...'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116594771190798340</id><published>2006-12-12T10:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-12T13:21:55.313-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Charlie Rose and Southern Thinking</title><content type='html'>In his segment last evening(12/11/06) with Ken Auletta, Charlie Rose really did a hatchet job on Lou Dobbs and his outspoken stance on the government and corporate war on the middle class, as per his book. Charlie Rose, apparently does not like this stance as it disagrees with his republican sensitivities and committments. I guess that the repub control of PBS/CPB by operatives like Ken Tomlinson and that woman who replaced him at PBS(he is still at CPB) is still dominating PBS programming as frequently evidenced in the Charlie Rose show and in Judy Woodruff's low grade and disrespectful interview of Pres. Jimmy Carter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Charlie Rose and Ken Auletta were also lamentingwhat they seemed to think is some kind of loss of standards, quality and journalistic integrity at CNN and saying that Ted Turner felt the same way. But Charlie, you right wing ideological idiot what has decayed at CNN is not the fact that it is carrying Lou Dobbs but that it is carrying the horrible Glenn Beck, who really should be living under the slimy rock that is Fox News, as that is where he belongs along with Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CNN has many good reporters but it has like all MSM succumbed to the lowest journalistic standards as developed at Fox via their cooperation with Karl Rove, The Repub Party and the Catholic Church, all of which are highly biased journalists and dedicated to misleading opinion rahter than true journalism. In Catholicism it's call equivocation(sometimes known as Jesuit equivacation, although I almost always like Jesuit thinking and reasoning) which I call Catholic lying/rationalization.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only thing CNN has to do to improve is get rid of the worst like Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace, Kate O'Bierne, James Carville and even Paula Zahn. While getting more people like Lou Dobbs, Jack Cafferty, Andrea Koppel and Mark Shields et.al.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even Tim Russert, that catholic repub, to his credit, did a much more respectful interview of Mr. Carter. Thanks Tim, there is hope for you yet. In that interview you were less catholic repub and showed more allegiance to American ideals than catholic repub ideology which has been, since Reagan came to office, an ever increasing disaster for America, although it may have been a good thing for Pope John Paul II and his personal agenda for America it has clearly been a disaster for America as now proven beyond all shadow of doubt by the Bush/Repub/Catholic hegemonic stranglehold over america directly resulting in the horrible mess of the Iraq war(which is a Pro-War, Pro-Death agenda for the ME and the ever closer destabilization of the entire Middle East. But meanwhile there is still no hope for Fox News, the screaming Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity nor is there any hope for Glenn Beck at CNN.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MSNBC, with Keith Olbermann is definitely on the right track for a better journalism which will lead to a better informed America. Keith is one of the best on tv along with those I have previously mentioned like Lou Dobbs(CNN). All MSNBC has to do is get rid of people like Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough. So if MSNBC builds upon the good work done by Olbermann, stops the blabbering style of Chris Matthews who constanly does that thing of talking over guests but otherwise does a good job and is interesting, and most definitely get Phil Donohue back(just as PBS raised it's standards by getting Bill Moyers back on) since Phil was terrific, definitely keep Ron Reagan and Jane Pauley while Maury Povich, Connie Chung and Alan Keyes have to go, go, go. Even though he is a Repub Pat Buchanan has reality based opinions and I can deal with that, it's just all those Repubs who do nothing but endlessly spew out Rove talking points which are all based on living in the fantasy of the Repub bubble that is nothing more than an insult to my intelligence and that of the American people who deserve far better from the MSM and have not gotten it for the past six years. And, now they complain about constantly losing readership/viewership which is simply because the MSM has become so very irrelevant due to it's constant lying and misleading/ covering up for the Repub Party to the american people   who just want the truth with no bullshit added.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So Charlie when you want to critique journalism you must identify the worst, Fox, and unless you start from there you lose your creds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Auletta segment was disconnected(lacked continuity of idea) within and was completely unrelated to the subsequent segment Charlie did on Lou Dobbs. Lou does a very good of speaking for himself and neither he nor we of the audience need or gained anything from the Auletta segment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What Charlie and Auletta did in their hatchet job on Lou Dobbs was to cast aspersions on Lou's reasons for his stance. They did this by suggesting that Lou had only pecuniary interests for his stance and therefore no real interest in the degrading war on the middle class other than that it makes for good ratings, and they brought this aspect up repeatedly, not just once. Also they kept saying that Lou is not the same guy he once was, as if thats a bad thing for Lou or anyone to do. In Charlie's republican world they call that flip-flopping while I think that upon new evidence one is doing a good thing by re-evaluating ones position and making changes as needed. Obviously Charlie and Auletta don't think so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AND that my friends is the very reason why America is caught/trapped in the position it is in because Bush/Cheney/Republican Party and their minions in America refuse to re-evaluate and change their worthless and unworkable ideas, just continuing blindly and stupidly on the same path ad infinitum and ad nauseam. The terrible blind, knee jerk, lock step, mentally incestuous thinking and 'Stepford'(as in Stepford Wives) robotic thinking and constant repetition of policies that have proven themselves, time and again, to NOT work but which they(Cheney, Bush et.al.) nonetheless keep on doing over and over and over again(while we're on the eve of destruction, anyone remember that song about Vietnam and which applies just as well today) and to the same negatory results(the definition for insanity) while expecting different results but instead ending in more SNAFU and FUBAR and being completely useless and obviously unproductive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have been dragged down into our present quagmire/pit of hell by this endless and stupid republican southern thinking. As in aigh(I) jist love Mr. Booosh bicawws he was chosen by god(small g, although my Catholic bible does not say he was chosen by any God) for this impwadent job(biness, bidness) bicawws he is from Texas(implying that the texas god chooses only Texass residents for these impwadent jobs because they are (the) righteous people, especially as if our cowboy president and cheerleader somehow has some divine gift and divine knowledge(thats called the sin of PRIDE in my bible as well as sacrilege, heresy and blasphemy where I come from in Ohio, the north, while obviously in the south they call it something else like righteousness) but then they have all those southern tent preachers(Falwell and Robertson) and the Catholic Church, my church, endorsing that kind of  self righteous southern thinking despite the fact that the Pope uses the same bible that I do(not the KJV bible which catholics are not allowed to use as it is not approved by the church).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well thats enough of Charlie Rose and his N. Carolina thinking except to say that Charlie ought to be dumped by PBS and his spot given to the wonderful Bill Moyers who the Repubs got rid of once upon a time but has since re-emerged despite the Repubs dislike of his penchant for telling the truth which seems to be driven by his sense of moral and religious obligation to do so. Whereas truth is anathema to most other Repubs. PBS might also consider giving a segment to Jim Wallis who believes, as I do, that God loves all of His children, not just repubs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe someday the repubs and the Catholics and white southerners will learn enough about God to understand that God loves all of His children, not just repubs, and it then follows that they must learn to love all of God's children, not just themselves. And that includes Muslims and Jews as well.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The south is still living back in the Confederacy and to some extent has advanced as far as the Cold War which is now long over unless they keep threatening Russia and China via their cowboy president. Bush is damn well not my president because he is a sociopathic mess, but then southerners like that narcissitic and self centered kind of thinking. Southerners just have not yet given up their white supremacist and Nazi thinking.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116594771190798340?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116594771190798340'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116594771190798340'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/charlie-rose-and-southern-thinking.html' title='Charlie Rose and Southern Thinking'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116586005232660775</id><published>2006-12-11T11:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-11T13:39:54.310-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Price of Security that Bush and the Republican Party Wants Is Your Very Soul</title><content type='html'>Will YOU GIVE IT...?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kofi Anan, in his farewell address, said among other things,  'The responsibility of the great states is to serve and not dominate the people of the world' as he quoted President Truman. I wholeheartedly endorse this concept.(IT really means GIVE and ask for NOTHING). It was so interesting that he said this as he spoke from the  Truman Library in Missouri, a state that is willing to give up our democratic values and institutions for this false sense of security that Bush keeps promising and which in my estimation is only doable to some extent and will never be fully guaranteed no matter what Bush says or promises.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The presidential 'promiser' is a false 'promiser'. While at the same time that Bush, Rove and the Republican Party make these promises you must see that what they actually do is constantly stir up, in America and the world, fear, hate, intolerance, war and death(they are truly the party of Pro-Death, not Pro-Life just as their minions(the three Pillers/groups that support them) are only Pro-Birth and Pro-Death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read previous posts for an explanation of those 'Three Pillers' and exactly who they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stirring up hate, fear, war and death is most assuredly NOT Pro-Life, no matter what they say. Their words are false as proven by their deeds. Their deeds reveal them for who and what they truly are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Missouri is also one of the 'red states' that support Bush's religious message(s) and like the Catholic Church, my church, follow and fully support him even when he  claims to be 'the chosen one', on four ocassions, two in public and two in semi-public situations. Despite Bush's claims the state of Missouri and the Catholic Church instead of recoiling from him, as they should have since he is not The Christ, continued their endorsement and complete support of him. It all makes me wonder what is the matter with the State of Missouri and the Catholic Church, my church, as they continue to follow this false christ(small c). They worship at the altar of George Bush kind of like those Jesus camp kids who pray TO Bush, not for him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Praying for Bush makes sense because Bush is such a criminal and unchristian prez, so he needs our prayers. It also makes sense because he has made and continues to make and unending list of mistakes revealing not only his egregious incompentency but also his great need for our prayers that God may grant him some light to see/find a better and more christian path as he attempts to do his job. Of course prayers will not work for 'he who will NOT see' so it really makes more sense to pray for ourselves, the nation, the planet and the peoples of the Middle East who are dying as a direct result of the actions of Bush and those who support his presidency of destruction and Pro-Death like the people of Missouri and the Pope and the Catholic Church who continue to endorse him despite the cost in lives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It surely seems that the people of Missouri and the Catholic Church have chosen to give up their christian values and replaced them with the values of Bush and the Repub party, which are solely political values ridden with anti-christian and anti-christ values. It is horrific to see that the 'beast' that roams the earth prevails in the actions of George Bush and the/his Republican party; the party of hate, intolerance, egregiously wanton political desires desires and false anti-christian values which is rampant in Missouri and the Catholic Church, especially including the Pope who shows himself almost bereft of christian values and in fact given himself completely over to  Bush values, false and idolatrous values. To the Pope and the people of Missouri, I must ask why have you abandoned the laws of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ, who I believe would never endorse and support Bush/ Repub/ Rove/ Cheney/ Rumsfeld/ Gonzales/ Ashcroft and Powell, values bereft as they are of any christian values or even common human social values.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But then common human social values are not and seemingly never will be part of the Republican Party, the party of 'me first' and the party of 'me only'. That is why anyone who claims to be a christian should never be voting for the Republican Party, the party that worships only at the altar of greed and political power. The Catholic Church has been very frequently criticised for their endless displays of and actions given over to it's obviously long history of desire for greed and political power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those of you who keep demanding 'security' I must ask at what price are you willing to pay for that 'security' that George Bush and the Republican party stripped from you and the world by their actions which constantly stir fear, hate and intolerance throughout the U.S. and the world and which leaves all of you in constant fear for your 'security' and yet at the price of your SOUL. I will not give my soul up for their elusive/imaginary sense of security which is gained by the Death (Pro-Death) of so many totally innocent people who did absolutely nothing at all to cause this Bush/Republican war for oil, greed and power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You who follow George Bush follow a false god(small g) who promises you many things but actually gives you nothing and at the same time asks for your very soul, which you so easily give up,  and as a result owns you because he owns your soul which is really the only thing of value that you posess and the one thing of real, true and lasting value, far above all else; and which you so easily give up and ALLOW to be taken from you. Those of satanic intentions cannot take your soul from you for they have not that power, but you have the power, given by God the Father and the Creator, the power of 'Free Will' to GIVE AWAY your soul. And that is exactly what you are doing for a false sense of Bushian/Republican/Rovian 'security' which they promisein exchange for your soul when you give them the political power to make war and kill in your name. Moreover, this security they purport to give you is really only a false sense of security, a hollow promise, since neither they nor anybody else can gaurantee what you seek.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AND above all else you would not need this phony 'siren' promise of security if you had learned to 'BE YOUR BROTHER'S KEEPER AND PROTECTOR' in the first place. Protect your brothers all over the world, ask NOTHING, not even oil, in return and your brother can do naught else but give himself over to protecting YOU because you will 'touch' him so deeply that you WILL WIN HIS HEART; and you WILL at the very same time be doing the work of the LORD God and his son Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now I weep, yes tears are welling up in my eyes, at the sins that have been committed in my name by our government of corruption and abomination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray for the defeat of Bush and the Republicans and the end to their reign of war, torture and death(Pro-Death).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116586005232660775?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116586005232660775'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116586005232660775'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/price-of-security-that-bush-and.html' title='The Price of Security that Bush and the Republican Party Wants Is Your Very Soul'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116542726043406826</id><published>2006-12-06T12:14:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-06T12:47:40.543-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Things or People, Fantasy or Reality, The Pope or God</title><content type='html'>It seems almost impossible to understand the endless denial and distortion of the Republican party. they never stop distorting or warping the truth, no wonder they have brought america and the world ever closer to destruction. But then the Catholic Church which totally supports the Repub party and the white southern Baptists and the Repub party raise themselves to the level of God, as these groups have no humility or sense of shame especially George Bush and the entire Bush family; as well as the entire repub party including people like Sam Brownback and his other cohorts like McCain, Romney, Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberts, Pat Robertson and so very many others who rule and strangle our beloved america with an iron fist just as those others did who were supported and endorsed by the popes and the Vatican namely, Hitler and the Nazi party which is so much like the repub party it is truly scary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some denials and distortion of reality is when the repubs say things like people have 'low food security' in the name of all that is holy the poor are starving and getting no help from the repub party which uses taxpayer dollars, not for the benefit of the taxpayers but only for the repub party and for more war. Then they use the stupid phrase that the war is not going as well or as quickly as  they had hoped, when in reality the war is a complete disasterof death and destruction. The repubs talk about success while human beings are dying which is the real and most important issue. But then things like money and political power are most important to the repubs not people, families, women, children, the sick or the elderly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is no wonder that these people, the repubs like Brownback, create war and senseless killing they deny the facts right before their eyes and create their own fantasy of what is happening. 'We the people' must do everything in our power, such as it is since the repubs and the catholics like Brownback have taken our freedoms and our votes away from us. Someday 'we the people' may have to take to the streets to end the stranglehold the pope and the Catholic Church, my church, and the repubs have over us and stop them. It's a terrible thought but when religion and government merge and both become corroded and corrupted there may be nothing else left to do and maybe that is a lesson that God wants us to learn namely, that each of us is responsible for we allow to happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116542726043406826?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116542726043406826'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116542726043406826'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/things-or-people-fantasy-or-reality.html' title='Things or People, Fantasy or Reality, The Pope or God'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116542362269464815</id><published>2006-12-06T10:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-31T13:27:44.513-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Angry Beyond Belief , At Repubs And Popes</title><content type='html'>I am angry beyond belief at Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI. John Paul got Reagan elected as president and then aligned the Catholic Church with the Repub party of destruction and corruption. Were it not for the criminal and sinful (merging of Catholic influence with repub party) america might well have never had and would most likely not have had Reagan and his repub corruption of america, not have had Bush 41 and his repub corruption of america nor Bush 43 and his repub corruption of america which as far as we know at this time is the worst and most horrendous. And yet I wonder what the rethugs and bullies will do to us and the entire world in the next two years. And then what about the election of 2008, may the saints preserve us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This endless and unqualified support and endorsement of the republican party by the popes and the entire Catholic Church has nearly destroyed america by causing enormous political divide within the fabric of our society. The Catholic Church is also responsible for the deaths of 2900 of our extraordinarily brave troops and the maiming in mind and/or body of some 20,000+ more which will last for their lifetime and for, on average, the next three generations of their children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The corruption of the Catholic Church and the Popes and the Repub party has also resulted in the deaths of some 600,000+ Iraqi citizens and their families. Also the Catholics, Popes and Repub party have really destabilized the entire middle east which now seems on the edge of regional war and even more death from those of the Pro-Lifers but who are really Pro-Deathers.&lt;br /&gt;All of this death and destruction caused by the popes and the Catholic Church and the Repub party makes the popes and the Catholic Church, especially the popes sinfully guilty and guilty of committing and abomination unto God and every living human being on this planet, especially we americans and the citizens of the entire middle east.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The popes are totally guilty of another monster sin upon us ALL, not just Catholics, of which I am one. If these two popes want to unleash satanic destruction upon catholics that is one thing, as terrible as it is because each catholic can choose to opt out of participating in this papal corruption and destruction. Actually, thats not entirely true because many if not most catholics do not have the strength of character or the complete belief in their God given FREE WILL, given to each of us by God our Father and Creator because the Church has taken away their FREE WILL via threat of sin, excommunication, withdrawal of the Sacraments and the threat of eternal hell resulting in most catholics living in subservience to the popes and constant fear of  going to hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also catholics are unable to think for themselves and do not seem to realize that when judgement day arrives they will be held responsible for not only their individual actions but all the actions they indirectly participated in because they support the church and so they are guilty of the sins of the church. I don't believe that on judgement day God will allow us to say 'It's not my fault because the pope made me do it'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because the popes and the catholic church threatens all catholics with going to hell if they don't follow the commands of the pope and the church hierarchy catholics do not actually have any FREE WILL and do not choose God freely and willingly.  But in reality the popes and the church have absolutely nothing to do with any catholic going to hell because only God makes that decision. But the pope and the church act AS IF they know the mind of God and do his bidding. The catholic church does not do the bidding of God,it does only and nothing more than the bidding of the pope who cannot know the mind of God as no human being can ever know the mind of God in this life or the next. So these last two popes have unleashed fear and death upon us all which now is getting us ever closer to the end of american society and the entire middle east.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am angry beyond belief at the unbelivable stupidity of the repub party and their three pillers of support namely the corporatocracy, the Neocons and the Theocons(Catholic Church and white southern Baptists). Were it not for these three pillers of support our beloved america would not be in the terrible situation we are now caught and trapped in, and from which there seems to be no way of escape. Realizing that I feel that way I ask myself what the Iraqis and Afghanis must be feeling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First Nixon resigned over the Watergate scandal in order to avoid prosecution . Then the next terrible event was Gerald Ford's pardon of Nixon which prevented any investigation from revealing all the facts of what really happened and from which 'we the people' might have learned enough to prevent this from ever happening again. And now the inhuman nature and agenda of the Repub party has resulted in the very same thing(Nixon/Repubs) happening all over again only much worse, to a greater degree and on a much larger scale. With the current events started back then, by the Pope John Paul II aligning and tying the church to the Repub party shortly after he became pope. Then came all the corruption of Reagan possible only because he got the total support of the pope and the catholic voters.  Next came all the corruption of Bush 41 and now we have the satanic and diabolical work of Bush 43 and the repub party, which is still supported by Pope Benedict.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't see any end or any sign of hope for an end to this horrendous turn of events so I live in daily fear of the damage my church and the Repub party are capable of doing to our beloved america and the entire world. And I don't believe this corruption and the many horrendous events will ever truly end because neither the Catholic Church nor the Republican party will ever go away. These groups are here to stay and will just keep coming back again and again until they get what they want and force what they want upon all of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All that I can do is hope that the predictions of St. Malachy in his Prophecy of Popes will come true. It seems a terrible thing to hope for, but I see no end to the damage the pope and the Catholic Church can and will do, because it has strayed terribly far from the laws of God and the teachings of our sweet Jesus. And now with a big lump in my throat and tears welling up in my  eyes once again, I stop to pray.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sic Transit Gloria Mundi&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116542362269464815?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116542362269464815'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116542362269464815'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/12/angry-beyond-belief-at-repubs-and.html' title='Angry Beyond Belief , At Repubs And Popes'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116472798290284915</id><published>2006-11-28T10:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-28T11:50:10.260-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Pro-Death Caused By The Catholic Church</title><content type='html'>Dear Readers,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you may remember I am a Catholic and an Independant voter and I stand in strong support of people, The Family of Man, which is to say all the children of God, and I stand in complete support of our beloved America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also stand against the Catholic Church in it's endless Pro-Birth and Pro-Death stance. I also stand firmly against it's endless support of the Republican party and the Bush admin. in it's very successful use of religion  for  political power and the Catholic Church's stance to give unlimited and unqualified support to the Republican party and the fact that both of these groups have so successfully deeply divided and fractured America and shredded our Constitution, giving 'we the people' among other hateful things the recentfully signed 'torture Legislation'; and this nazi pope thinks that is just peachy keen. But then being a past nazi he would support such a violation of human rights just as Hitler did during his reign and his/Catholic Holocaust. Which now has resulted in the endless Middle East wars and the rise of the Neocons, many of whom are Jews and who still carry a great fear of the Holocaust just as I do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Neocons have arisen as a result of the Holocaust and their great fear that it might happen again. But they are making a Holocaust happen yet again but now in the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;The Neocons and the Israeli warhawks like Netanyahu and Ohlmert are not acting upon a hate for the Holocaust, in fact they use that event to justify their causing of another Holocaust, this one being in the Middle East and in America resulting in their shredding of our Constitution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church's 2000yr long intimidation of Catholics via their fear of hell has now become a complete intimidation of all Americans. And let no one tell me that is not the intent of the torture legislation because if it is not and it is all above board then why has it been kept secret from the American people and Congress and even Congressional oversight committees whose very job it is to provide oversight and a measure of control over egregious use of these kinds of over-reaching types of practices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now the latest is laws that will eventually be enacted that will outlaw abortion and women's rights to the control of their own bodies. So we still have male dominated religions keeping women in second class status with not even the power over their own bodies; because the Catholic Church deems that they are not to have those rights on the basis that it KNOWS the mind of God and it is doing what God wants. Just how much hypocrisy is that, and just how much PRIDE is that. I don't like abortions but it is my right what women should or should not do nor is it the right of any male to make those decisions over women, especially when God does not. He gave us ALL Free Will, including women. The domination of women and the endless bashing of gays is itself an abomination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If anyone doubts my thesis they have only to look at what is happening in Nicarauga and El Salvador where two Archbishops in these catholic countries do not allow abortion under any circumstances, even rape, incest or the health of the mother. If that doesn't relegate second or third class status to women and make them nothing more than baby making machines than I don't know what other heinous rules and laws that the Catholic Church can enact that could possibly do more damage or do more to dehumanize women and strip them of their souls and the sanctity of their bodies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Nicarauga a woman, Jimenez Bojorge, and her fetus have just died because no doctor would operate on them for fear of long jail sentences enacted into law by the gov't and  called for by the Archbishop in Nicarauga. The Catholic Church has a long history of death and supporting the  violation of the sanctity of human life as during the Hitler(a Catholic) and the Nazi regime endorsed by Pius XI and Pius XII. For greater detail see many of my previous blog entries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The very same thing that is and has occurred in Nicarauga is occurring in El Salvador at the demands of an archbishop in that country. And that is exactly what will happen in America  because the ball is now rolling due to the State of S.D. once and still guilty of criminal and userous credit card laws and now guilty of violation of the covenant between God and each of His children, as it places itself above that covenant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And additionally, and of even greater fear is that there are now a good number of groups that are proposing laws that are exactly the same of those in Nicarauga and El Salvador namely, the complete prevention of all abortions for any reason whatsoever. When that happens, I will take to the streets with my pitchfork in complete civil disobediance and will refuse to pay my taxes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When will the Catholic Church ever learn that killing of others who refuse to follow the dogma and dictates of the Catholic Church is always wrong no matter what the Pope, the Vatican and the USCCB thinks is a clear and total violation of the laws of God(thou shalt not kill) and the teachings  of Jesus regarding the judging of others, such as he who is without sin...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The complete and total endorsement and support of the Bush Repubs is as terrible a sin as was it's support of Hitler and the Nazis whgich CAUSED the Holocaust. So if the Neocons want to attack someone or a group for the Holocaust let them attack the Vatican and the current Nazi Pope.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray to God not the Pope or the false christ(small c) George Bush, if you do you are parying to false idols.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116472798290284915?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116472798290284915'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116472798290284915'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/pro-death-caused-by-catholic-church.html' title='Pro-Death Caused By The Catholic Church'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116430242524748089</id><published>2006-11-23T09:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-12-31T12:40:26.603-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What It Means To Be An American, for me it means FEAR</title><content type='html'>Dear Readers,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A very Happy Thanksgiving to all Americans, even you Republicans, though I live in daily fear of you people and the damage you are capable of doing and already have done to my beloved America and so many other peoples around the world and especially in the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My fear began with Reagan getting elected but was less at that time, it grew with Bush 41 and now has become a full blown, constant and daily fear since Bush 43 got elected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW, I am an Independant voter who will vote Democrat from now on, and at all levels even state and local. I guess that makes me a heathen and traitor in the eyes of you repubs. But I prefer to think for my self rather than as a member of a blind, knee jerk, lock step, 'stepford wives'  group-think organization. Some of you, actually most of you repubs  who wish to give up your individuality and personal integrity thinbk of Dems as a party of wafflers and flip-floppers just don't realise that Independants and Dems are are not a single lock step group of thinkers . Instead we are a group of divergent thinkers who desire to examine every aspect of every situation. While Repubs are convergent authoritarian thinkers who are readily willing to give up their personal authority and responsibility to others who offer you simple solutions most of which are very narrow minded and of a narrow self serving agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The repub party is a conspiracy because all repubs speak and think in lock step, as if they/you are all just one person and of one mind. Though it is my feeling based on what I see which is there is such a thing as a repub conspiracy it is also the analysis of many historians, who say that the Repub party became this way during the Eisenhower administration. While I thought your party became what it is today during the corrupt Nixon admin the historians say this actually began during the Eisenhower admin and it was because Ike, one of my favorite presidents, saw what his party members were doing and threw some out of his admin in favor of Dems, while distancing himself from other repubs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result of those events the repub party has been working to create a strategy for taking over America and as we all can see reached full fruition under George W. Bush. The repub stategy failed under Reagan and Bush 41 because both were politicians but still gentleman from the old school, meaning they were not vicious enough to engage in all the dirty work that Atwater, Gingrich, Cheney and Rumsfeld wanted .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But then along came dubya, he of no values or moral compass ie. a sociopath, and Karl Rove quite possibly another sociopath and so the repub party, Cheney, and Rumsfeld had their man. Because of this cabal,including illegal elections in Florida via Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris, also vicious people of no morals, who were willing to step low enough and sell their souls to  create  corrupt elections and with the aid of the US Supreme Court were able to get dubya into the presidency. Then he brought the most corrupt and evil group of people into our government which in effect became THEIR gov't. All of the above factors and the Three Foundations/ Pillers of the repub party , starting from the Reagan days, which were and still are the corporatocracy, the neocons and the theocons is what brings us to what we have today and which causes me daily fear for now and for the 2008 elections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The corporatocracy is driven by endless greed, no matter the cost to peoples and childrens lives, and no matter the cost to America. The US Chamber of Commerce and corporatocracy's first, last and total allegiance is to  unlimited greed, with absolutely no controls from our/their gov't. And the repub party since Reagan has given them just that environment. As a result we have children with Autism, Asthma, Learning Disabilities and rapidly increasing birth defects. Yet so many of the parents of these afflicted children continue to support and vote for the repub party. Do these parents care more for the repub party and out of control corrupt and unregulated corporations(like the chemical, drug industries and other pollution industries) that they are willing to sacrifice their own children. I would have to answer yes they do because they continue voting repub which gives us unregulated corporations and their endless dirtying of our environment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The repub party is totally dependant upon and corrupted by the money they get from the corporatocracy. So repubs will never stand up to their money sources who damage your health and that of your children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the next issue is the Neocons, like Cheney, Rumsfeld and the likes of Bill Kristol and many humdreds of other WARHAWKS who are bent on projecting american military might all over the world and especially in the Middle East no matter the cost to america in troops and treasure. And no matter the cost in lives of innocent peoples in the Middle East. Neocons are a conspiracy which merges american warhawks and SOME Jewish warhawks. Most Jews in America and Israel want a fair, just, and lasting PEACE for ALL peoples but the neocons do not, as they have a very different agenda for the world. It's called 'The New World Order', read about it, and the Council On Foreign Relations and The Trilateral Commission, PNAC, American Enterprise Institute, Heritage Foundation and about fifty other think tanks devoted to the repub party and it's agenda which is not a people friendly agenda but a money and political power friendly agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now to the third support group which gives the repub party so much unlimited power, the THEOCONS. These are principally two religious groups, the white southern Baptists and the Catholic Church which is my church and which I almost totally disagree with on almost all their issues. Al Franken, the wonderful comedian and commentator who I admire so much, said it very well when he described the repub agenda as using "fears, smears and queers" to gain political power. The THEOCONS, Catholic Church and white southern Baptists(aka SBC) use the very same tactics, which are really tactics of hate, to control their voters to vote only repub.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My church, the Catholic Church put Reagan in the presidency and completely and totally aligned itself with the repub party at that time and still fully supports it now and that is the very reason why the repub party has been in power so long and can get away with so many unconscionable and wholly unchristian acts against 'The Family of Man' not only here in America but the worldwide 'Family of Man'. Just as the Catholic Church endorsed Hitler and the nazi party it supports the repub party of today which is and uses the same nazi-like tactics(Rovespin propaganda/Goebbels) to gain and keep political power and destroy anyone it doesn't like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church made an unforgivable error and sin then and it has been doing the exact same thing today starting from the presidency of Reagan and continuing through with the presidency of George Bush. What is even worse and more fearful is that the Catholic Church will never see through their own blind corruption and give up this path they are on. The church will keep at this until someone is able to stop it and I don't see anyone that is powerful enough to do that. Remember the church has been around for almost two thousand years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately as a result of this immense power the Catholic Church affects and controls elections in america and gov't policy both domestic and foreign. And equally unfortunate is the fact that the church is dragging us all down even those who are not catholics because it drags our entire nation down and forces all americans to be stuck accepting the catholic agenda for america, which is definitely not the american peoples agenda for america, as the recent elections have proven. So the Catholic Church remains an ever present threat to America and to the world via it's unending support of the repub party. And all of this is equally true of the white southern confederate Baptists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a result of THEOCON support of the repub party we now have dead and maimed american troops and a far greater number of dead and maimed Iraqis and Afghani peoples. I see no evidence of this killing ending unless the Dems with their slim majority are able to stop this endless death. Also as a result of Theocon support we also now have the 'Torture Legislation' and the past Pope John Paul, who started all of this, as well as the current Pope Benedict who did nearly nothing to stop this just as the two popes who supported the Nazi party and Hitler did so little to protest the Holocaust that they may as well have done nothing at all, but then they endorsed Hitler so the German people elected Hitler. And of course the result of the Holocaust is very much with us to this very day giving us the Neocons and in so many other ways.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is never wrong, but man made and man run religions are Frequently wrong just as the Catholic Church and the SBC are today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a warning: another South or Central American catholic country just passed legislation that forbids abortion under ANY, ANY, and I repeat ANY circumstance whatsoever. If the Catholic Church is not stopped, due to it's zealotry, that is exactly what we will have in America and some states are getting dangerously close to that now. And btw that should give you all an idea of the low secondary status of women in the Catholic Church and in many Catholic countries. Those very same kinds of laws have already been proposed by various groups in America. I think women are much more than just baby machines and the death of even one woman due to such laws in North, Central or South America is an abomination unto God and man/woman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I fear greatly for America and our shredded Constitution caused by the Neocons and especially the worst group the THEOCONS because they cannot be controlled due to their unquestioning belief that they KNOW the mind of God and so they do what God wants. Of course those of us who choose to think realize that these religious groups DO NOT KNOW THE MIND OF GOD and really only do what THEY decide for themselves what they think is the will of God. Their kind of thinking is blasphemy, heresy and hypocrasy of the WORST KIND. Their kind of thinking is the exact definition of the cardinal sin of PRIDE as they place themselves at God's level. These people are SACRILIGEOUS beyond all... These religious groups have no SHAME or  HUMILITY.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ONLY GOD KNOWS HIS OWN MIND        &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is not given to ANY of we humans to know the mind of God. And any act done via that line of thinking is an ABOMINATION UNTO GOD.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When religion is used for corruption and when religions lend themselves to political use than all that ensues/derives/ comes forth there-from is CORRUPTION/ SATANIC and DIABOLICAL.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now I have a huge lump in my throat and some tears in my eyes as I am so concerned for 'THE ENTIRE FAMILY OF MAN' including the peoples of the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PRAY FOR PEACE, FOR ALL...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am an Independant voter and a patriotic American who will always question everything our government does no matter the political party in power. So you repubs just better get used to it, because I'm  here to stay and dog your every step. And I WILL BE RELENTLESS. I will be relentless about NEOCONS. I will be RELENTLESS about scrutinizing all religions especially those most dangerous to America, the Catholics and the SBC  both of whom seem to have strayed so far from the laws of God and teachings of Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here in Ohio we have a group of protestant ministers who are doing wonderful things about the many problems in america due to the merging of church and state . They seem to believe as I do that this merging is corrosive to both church and state. This group seems to fully believe in the tachings of Jesus about the separation of church and state(render to caesar... and render to God...).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The wonderful Hillel said something along the lines of 'Do nothing to your neighbor that you would not want done to you' and all else is but commentary. Truly, a great thought, which seems/ is the same as the Sermon On The Mount and the golden rule. Although it was Hillel who spoke this concept back in about 300BC, and Confucius spoke it even earlier, then Christ and also the Prophet Muhammed all said the very same thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And once again lest ye forget, PRAY FOR PEACE.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116430242524748089?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116430242524748089'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116430242524748089'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/what-it-means-to-be-american-for-me-it.html' title='What It Means To Be An American, for me it means FEAR'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116421680839863223</id><published>2006-11-22T11:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-22T12:33:29.076-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bush, Son, Father, Their Denials Of Reality And The Endless Theocon Support</title><content type='html'>Did anyone hear Bush's comments on Vietnam, as the courageous Keith Olbermann said Bush still "has no Clue". Bush has lost all connection with reality. Only the Theocons and Neocons believe him now and maybe even the some of the Jewish neocons seem to no longer believe him. Only neocons like Cheney, Von Rumsfeldt, Bill Kristol and a few thousand other crazies still believe Bush and his machine of endless destruction and war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, and Pope Benedict still supports him as did Pope John Paul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just look at what these two Popes have unleashed upon America and the world. It is almost unfathomable that so much corruption of the laws of God and teachings of Christ could exist in the Catholic Church, my church, but then just look back to what the Catholic Church did to put the nazis and Hitler in power in 933 and all the damage they wreaked upon the world then and much of which still continues to this very day via the never ending spread of nazi like thinking. As for example, in the Repub party and the Nazi-Fascist Neocons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, and the College of Cardinals and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops still support him so they to must believe in Bush, the man who has claimed on four ocassions to be Jesus Christ. Well, Falwell, Robertson and that paragon of virtue, Newt Gingrich the man of the Moral Majority/Contract With America, who leads a morally corrupt life with his numerous affairs of adultery and other sordid behaviors, still believes him. But then these people would believe Bush as they are corrupt themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is so unusual, crazy and a complete denial of reality by Bush, the sociopath, is that he continues to say he will not leave Iraq because it is not a victory if he does leave and at the same time speaks so highly of Vietnam. Mr. Stupid Bush has just forgotten that America 'cut and ran' from Vietnam and as a result the Country of Vietnam has become what it is today and which he acclaims so highly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush is beyond stupid and narcissitic he is pathological. I could pick his remarks apart piece by piece for their complete lack of logic, error and stupidity. Bush, this wretched and diabolical man/boy/president is a mess and quite subhuman, like Cheney and Von Rumsfeldt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did anyone read what happened to Bush 41 in Dubai where he was heckled and jeered at a leadership conference speech he gave. He became upset and somewhat incoherent. From what he said it became quite clear, to me, that yes he is the father of George Bush because he acted just the same. Bush 41 just couldn't understand why the audience was acting the way they were, so George H.W. is equally out of touch with reality. No wonder he spawned Bush 43 and the rest of the miscreants and neandrathals in that family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray for peace-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And pray that America and the world may rid itself of the entire Bush family. I hope they go to Paraguay and it will be good riddance to the entire lot of them. But  I feel sorry for the citizens of Paraguay, however the Bush family will be in the company of the WWII nazis who are still alive in Paraguay and their families. Because they are all of similar ideology they will get along well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally should America be so lucky that the entire Bush family would move to Paraguay I refuse to let my tax dollars be used for the use of the Secret Service to protect them. Let the Bush family hire mercenaries and torturers, at their own expense from CACI, Titan or Blackwater to defend them and their 140,00 acres. The american oil, drug and defense companies will share the expenses and charge the American public by raising oil and drug prices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Demand Diplomacy, Forbid War and Killing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116421680839863223?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116421680839863223'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116421680839863223'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/bush-son-father-their-denials-of.html' title='Bush, Son, Father, Their Denials Of Reality And The Endless Theocon Support'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116421296159801002</id><published>2006-11-22T10:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-22T11:29:35.170-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Instruments Of Torture</title><content type='html'>Let's not forget and in fact let us seek out, go after and bring to justice those who were the instruments of the Repub/Rumsfeld 'Torture Legislation'(let's call it what it is)  like U.S. Army General Geoffrey Miller, Colonel Thomas Papas and their superior officer General Ricardo Sanchez for their crimes at GITMO and Abu Ghraib as these men are the real culprits and criminals, not the troops at the bottom of the chain of command, though they must be punished too but are not the cause of these horrible events.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The souless Geoffery Miller, Rumsfeld, Papas, Sanchez, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo, Bush and Cheney are the truly guilty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Noe from Toledo, Ohio(btw Geoffrey Miller was born in Gallipolis, Oh. just  more corrupt and criminal Ohio Rethugs, like Taft, Boehner and that other piece of Rethug scum from Ohio Bob Ney who just went to jail and much of the Ohio Repub party who have ruled this state for approx. the past four decades) Noe just got 18yrs in prison. If the rest of the Repubs in Gov't all got 18yrs in prison Repub corruption would very quickly come to an end and we could save the Repub party from itself, ie. self destruction and it's on going damage to the nation and the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;President Ike where are you,  your party needs you now. Are their any, even one Repub in America that is a decent and patriotic citizen who will put the greater good of the nation ahead of their party agenda. I don't know of even one. Should any claim to be so oriented, they are now going to have to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, and not just by Rovian spin but by ACTIONS. Even Barry Goldwater who started the decline of the Rethug party (aided greatly by Nixon and his cohorts, Cheney and Rummy) could and would never have imagined that he would cause this and now be considered to the left of the current version of the Repub party. One Goldwater Repub said that his kind are considered to be left of center, politically speaking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And if the Repubs make any kind of a come back in 2008 'we the people' and America will be right back to everything that was going on before this recent election, America will once more decend into the pits of slime and hell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is that likely, yes you all better darn well believe it is very possible. Why, because the three pillars that support the Rethug party are not just going away. 1. The Rethug agenda will never change. 2. The neocons will still be around, even if they are no longer in the foreground but they will be in the background of american politics. 3. Endlessly greedy american corporatocracy will always be with us. 4. the Theocons, extremist religious zealots like the Catholic church, my church as well as the SBC will never learn and will never give up there own forms of religious corruption as they endlessly violate the laws of God and the teachings of Christ. And the Pope approves of all that is going on by his actions of endlessly supporting one political party, the Rethug party, when he should be stopping his merging of church and state, as forbidden by Jesus and our Constitution. But then the Pope and past popes were not ones to obey the laws of God preferring their own self interperetation of those laws and teachings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray for peace&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116421296159801002?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116421296159801002'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116421296159801002'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/instruments-of-torture.html' title='The Instruments Of Torture'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116405070233732272</id><published>2006-11-20T11:27:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-22T10:39:36.980-05:00</updated><title type='text'>War, Religion and Politics, namely, the Republican Party And The Catholic Church and Other Theocons</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just to remind everyone, I am a an Independant , voter and a Catholic. But I am NOT a right wing fundamentalist Catholic as is Pope Benedict XVI, Those in the Vatican and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops(aka USCCB). I think the Catholic Church has gone far astray of the laws of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church has merged religion and politics. This was most obviously done by Pope John Paul II when he aligned the Catholic Church with the Republican party in America. He threw the resources and world wide power of the Church and most Catholic voters solidly and unqualifiedly behind the Republican party giving that party huge power over the lives of most Americans, even and especially those who are not Catholics and leading to the enormous damage done to America and to the entire world.  As a result of this unending and unqualified support of the Republican party America got Ronald Reagan(and all his crimes and those of the Repub party against the american people), Bush 41(and all his crimes ...) and finally the absolute worst of all Bush 43(and all his and the Repubs crimes against America and the world causing an enormous amount of deaths, to our troops, Afghani and Iraqi civilians).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;America is now a deeply fractured and deeply divided country from which it may and seems to me forever unlikely to recover. The Supreme Court of the US(aka SCOTUS) is loaded with Republicans and radical right wing Catholics aka Catholic Republicans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see no hope that the Catholic Church is ever going to stop doing what it is doing and thus I fear greatly for America , our troops and our people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their are three fundamentalist religions in the U.S. They are the Mormans, the white southern Confederate States Baptists. The Mormans seem to be limited in scope and power to Utah and Arizona and they don't seem to mix their religion with national politics, being satisfied with the state politics in Utah and to some extent Arizona. Both of these states strongly support Bush and his Repub war and death machine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the other two fundamentalist religions, the SBC and The Catholic are not only fundies but jihadist as well. They give Bush and the Repubs unlimited power to  wreak havoc on our democracy(eg. Torture Legislation which can easily be used to control and dominant americans into submission and fear) but give Bush&amp;Co. unlimited power to conduct war on innocent people.One writer remarked that the SBC are the foot soldiers in Bush's war against democracy in america while the Catholic Church are the thinkers. I would alter that statement thusly, the Catholic Church is the policy hawks behind Rove, Bush , the Repub party and their entire war machine against the american people. And the Catholic voters are also the foot soldiers in the Bush anti-american war anti-world war machine and they are just as guilty as the SBC in what is a never ending ideological battle to greatly lessen democracy in america and around the world. These groups don't want peace or they would never support Bush and the Repubs who don't want democracy or a gov't 'by, for and of the people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is easy to verify as one only has to listen to the msm, most especially Fox News(not news at all but nothing more than Bush/Catholic Repub propaganda. Also watching C-Span and listening to the callers since Bush gained office and comparing then to now since the Dems won so many seats in the elections despite Karl Roves loudly stated goals to totally destroy the Democratic party and remain in power forever. Another source to watch for Catholic Repub agenda is EWTN, the Catholic cable channel where all of the participants from the boss Mother Angelica on down endlessly spew out the Republican agenda and tell Catholics to vote Republican by telling the listeners of this almost seditious network to vote Pro-Life, the code word for the Repub  party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The of destruction of the Dem party would destroy our two party 'system of checks and balances' which did end when Bush became prez, our worst prez. When the Dems were rendered helpless and powerless over the last twelve years and most especially over the last seven years our democracy no longer existed. Without a two party system there is no more America. So for those who are truly patriotic Americans our two party system must be protected at all and any costs. Outside terrorists are far less of a threat to America than the terrorists within, all of whom I have mentioned above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There was a woman on C-Span's Washington Journal (an excellent program because it is the only program whereby Americans can talk and especially listen to each other without going through the msm which is just a Bush Repub spin machine)  calling in from Missouri( a Repub red state) who spouted the repub point of view and complained about the rest of us who don't follow the Rove, Bush, Cheney Repub party line. At the end of her comments(and she was a nice lady even with her moderate acrimony) asked the question 'and who are the neocons, she keeps hearing that word and didn't understand who these people were, I paraphrase but that is the gist of what she said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My first thought was 'and she is a voter' and how terribly uninformed she is. Voters need to understand that the Bush Repub party is based on three ideological pillars. The Theocons, the Corporatocracy and the warhawk(pro war pro killing) Neocons. Actually all three the Theocons the Corporatocracy and the Neocons are warhawk groups and pillars of the Repub warhawk and chickenhawk machine. All three of these groups will use every means possible(to them the ends justify the means, any means) to achieve their ideological agenda, their ends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Theocons(Catholic Church and SBC and a few others who are committed to using religion for political power and political power for religious purposes) the corporatocracy( a number of Big  Businesses who are profitting immensely from the war like Halliburton, Bechtel, Military-Industrial complex of defense industries and a few hundred other war profiteering Big Businesses) and the Neocons(Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer etc. ad nauseam) are the groups that are the mainstay and support pillars of the Repub party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is the neocons who want to project American military power all over the world, especially all over the Middle East. Using Google and Wikipedia it is easy to learn about all of these aforementioned groups, for starters just go to Wikipedia and type in neocons and start reading about the father of the neoconservative movement who is Leo Strauss. These neocons were once democrats but some time ago almost all of them became Repubs because the Dems are less likely and less willing to go to war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many of these neocons are warhawks/chickenhawks like Cheney and Rumsfeld and are left over from the Cold War and who are still totally buried in Cold War ideology of destroying the Communists, Russians and Chinese. The other main part of the Neocons are Jews who are left over(that is somewhat disrespectful of me to use that term, though I mean no disrespect) from the worst event in human history the Holocaust and they remain ever fearful of that event as if it is still going on, because to them it is still going on in their minds and in the Middle East, so for them it is still very real. But they are the very reasons why this continues in the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main problem with the Jewish Neocons is that they are contributing immensely to all that is happening by their actions in the Middle East and their actions in America. They seem to have taken warped lessons from the Holocaust because they are committing their own Holocaust in the Middle East. War begets more war and violence begets more violence. They are doing nothing to make Israel safer by manipulating the U.S. into this war. Pat Buchanon, a paleoconservative(which is true Republican conservative) has spoken well and clearly on this topic of Israel manipulating America into this war. Just as in America where the gov't does not listen to the people so to in Israel where there are very blarge numbers of Jewish citizens who are against what is going on and demand peace of their own gov't but it does not listen, as usual the warhawks like Netanyahu seem to prevail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are Catholics in America who oppose this war but does the Catholic Church listen, no it just continues to support Bush and the Republican party. But then the Catholic Church is not a democracy one person, the Pope has complete and total control. Pope Benedict XVI just like Pope John Paul II must THINK they KNOW the mind of God. I can now easily see that St. Malachy, Archbishop of Armagh, predicted through his Prophecy of Popes the end of the papacy.One person, the Pope who wields so much power can very easily be wrong and cause so much damage to worldwide 'Family of Man' which is to say the entire human race.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is ironic that the Pope Benedict XVI continues his unrelenting support of the Bushies and the Republican party despite the fact that Jesus clearly demanded the separation of church and state (render to caesar...render to God... and threw the scribes, pharissees and money lenders out of the temple) as does our American Constitution which the Pope and Bush and the Repubs all just completely ignore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The neocons and all Jews are ever vigilant that this must never happen again and I agree with them, wholeheartedly, that this must never happen again and so I remain ever vigilant as we all must. That is one huge reason why I am so angry and critical about Catholicism, my religion, because I am convinced that had the Vativan and Popes Pius XI and Pius XII never supported Hitler there might well have never been a WWII. Should anyone want to study this further just read many of my previous blog postings as I have covered much of those events. Or using sources like Google and Wikipedia just look up the Reichskonkordat of 1933, by which Pope  Pius XI put the Catholic Church stamp of approval on Hitler (called Imprimatur in catholicism) and led to his being elected(yes elected) in Germany. That was a HUGE wrongdoing by the Catholic Church which can never be made right by the Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me the only way the Catholic Church and Pope Benedict XVI can begin and I do mean only begin to  go about some small, and I do mean small,  measure of restitution for the abomination is to open the secret archives of the Vatican to scholars and historians from all over the world, especially the Jewish scholars and historians from all over the world. If that is done and all of these records are available for public review, books etc, can some small measure of restitution begin. That support of Hitler and the nazi party by the Vatican would also be some small measure of restitution to the German people, the people of Poland, Hungary, England, France, Russia and the United States for all the suffering and enormous number of deaths cause by the complicity between the Vatican and the nazi party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must all remember that the american bankers and financial supporters for the nazi party was a company called Brown, Brown and Harriman and specifically two employees Prescot S. Bush and George Herbert Walker, anyone familiar with those names and those families. Yes dear readers they are just who you think they are, corrupt then and corrupt now. FDR, even after the war started had to actually order them to stop their financial operations and support of the nazis' here in America and in Germany and Poland. Read it and be amazed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My father was in that damn rotten war, aboard Liberty ships whose life averaged out to be 21 days. Thankfully he lived through it but the after effects of his sea duty war zone experiences are still affecting my family to this very day. So I can see what is and will happen to our troops in this Bush(once again that family name rears it's ugly head) Catholic Republican war, a war of choice,  is doing and will do to our troops and their families and the Iraqi and Afghani families. All of you must know and remember what is still happening to our troops/families from the Vietnam war another dumbass politician's war. My brother was a Marine Sgt. in that war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let no one forget the shabby and insufficient treatment our vets from that war got. The very same thing happened to our vets from the first Gulf war and the very same kinds of neglect will happen to our troops and their families as a result of this war. If we are not going to give our vets full and proper care then we should not send them to war unless America is directly attacked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, don't give me that bullshit Bush Repub line that we were attacked. 'They' did not attack us, there was no 'they'. There was only Osama bin Laden and his small group, the entire  Iraq, Afghanistan and the entire Middle East did NOT attack us , only bin Laden and his supporters in Saudi Arabia and the Saudi gov't and the Saudi family attacked us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll repeat that, only Osama bin Laden and the Saudi's attacked us. But Bush and the Repubs do  NOTHING about that fact. The Bush family are great friends with the Saudis', does anyone see a pattern here, I certainly do. And where did our best intel about bin Laden come from, it cam from Iran and Syria, but everyone overlooks those facts in the never ending drumbeat for more war, against Iran and Syria.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does anyone remember that Iran got their nuclear know-how from Pakistan. Does anyone remember that according to all the experts Iran is many, many years from getting the bomb and it is a signatory to the NNPT as is America yet it is we who broke that treaty and will soon be giving our nuclear technology to India which is not a signatory to the NNPT(Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty) as Pakistan is not a signatory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like India and the Indian people and don't blame them for Bush/Repub violation of that treaty. But because of our violation of that treaty India can now make more nuclear bombs. This action by Bush just adds to Middle East turmoil and instability, which America is famous for causing. If you don't believe me, just look at Central and South American countries where we have caused endless instability even way before WWII.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Corporate greed is responsible for what the CIA has done causing endless instability in those countries. I don't hate America as the Bush Repubs would insist I just expect our country to not go about pillaging and looting so many other countries in the name of 'we the people' when in reality it is most often done for American corporations. I don't want my tax dollars used for such purposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also all of you must remember that the damaging effects done by any war including this war lasts on average for the next three generations in the families of our troops but also in the families of the Iraqis and Afghanis. And thats a fact, jack. So the Bush/Repub party has spat out SNAFU and FUBAR all over America and all coalition troops and their families and again among the Iraqi and Afghani families. Does that outcome of this Bush, Bush family, Catholic, Repub war sound like Pro-Life to any of you. Does that / do those outcomes sound anything like "WINNING HEARTS AND MINDS" to any of you .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So once again the Pope, the Vatican and the USCCB make another  HUGE, HUGE, HUGE mistake/abomination unto God and 'The Family of Man' for endlessly and so solidly supporting Bush and the Republican party, and does that sound to anyone on this earth or in America like Pro-Life.  I cannot believe anyone in America of any religion can consider that Pro-Life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And just how in the name of God and all that is holy will the Pope and the Vatican and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops ever begin to make right yet another abomination like what is happening in my beloved America and to the peoples of the Middle East. This is not Pro-Life it is totally Pro-Death, Pro-Death, Pro-Death. And it is going on everyday, where and when will it ever end. I see no end in sight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Theocons, Neocons and the corporatocracy MUST be stopped by the American people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope and pray everyday that the Dems can undo some of the worst damage done by the Bushies, Catholic Repubs, all Repubs, the theocons, Neocons and certain members of the corporatocracy. We must BAN the lobbyists and the US Chamber of Commerce.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally if we are going to put our troops in harms way let all Americans DEMAND that it be done only when absolutely necessary, and as a last resort. Let all American remember the 'WE THE PEOPLE' are responsible for what use our troops are put to beceause it is we who are ultimatelty responsible for their well being. The Theocons, Neocons, Corporatocracy and the Bushie Repubs don't give a damn what happens to them and further will cheat them and their families out of every service they need to recover from their service to our country. Let ALL Americans DEMAND that our gov't clearly and totally explain why our troops, their families and our entire nation must suffer through the horrors of war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Reeethugs must be stopped from constantly stirring the pot of war they are now trying to spread to Iran and Syria. Damn all the Reeethugs for what they are doing to promote and damn their suypporters in the corporate world  and the neocons and the theocons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray for peace and give peace a chance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us all demand that Israel make peace in the Middle East. Israel is the most powerful country in the Middle East and has enough nuclear bombs(thought to be six hundred) to destroy the entire Middle East. If Israel cannot make peace in the Middle East then I invite the entire nation to come and live here in America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I support Israel but I also equally support the peoples of Palestine and the Middle East who are dying on a daily basis. They do not have the military power Israel has and so are unable to defend thewmselves with the same skill and ferocity that Israel and America have available to do the killing. Israel must finally be held responsible for the killing it is doing against the Palestinians and must be held responsible for making a fair and lasting peace with all the peoples of the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Israel and America, specifically the vicious and the deadly Bush Rethugs don't seem to understand much of anything. Especially that peace costs far less than war and peace is far better for business.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do the Israelis want to make war or would they rather do business, where everyone benefits. I am absolutely amazed that business leaders in Israel and here in America do not seem to understand that war is only good for a few businesses while peace is good for all businesses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then there is the even more important issue namely, that "The Family of Man" , all human beings can begin to realize their full potential with worldwide peace. So though they Bushs, Cheneys and Rumsfelds of the world thrive on war and live according to their baser instincts 'we the people' have to stop these people for the endless, criminal and Godless ways they want the world and our beloved America to be. 'We the people ' do not want these endless killings so we must stop them all including the neocons, corportocracy and the theocons in the Catholic Church and the SBC who endlessly support the Bushs, Cheneys and Rumsfelds in america so they can go about doing their evil. As the old sayin goes 'dance with satan and he'll own your soul' and that is exactly what is going on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God is never wrong but man made religions can easily be wrong and in the current events both Catholicism and the SBC are very , very wrong as they are dancing with the devil to the peril of us all. If my fellow Catholics want to damnce with the devil by following the Pope that is their business but don't drag the rest of us down to the level of the devil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only diplomacy, never war-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray to God for peace, not this Pope nor the last Pope who have most assuredly lost their way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And don't pray to the Godless Bush or the Repub party because being Repubs they are not in this world to care for and see to the well being of people but only to the benefit of the Repub party and their endlessly greedy, stop at nothing corporate friends all of whom are now totally corrupt and criminal and completely bereft of any empathy or humanity for what is happening to all of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yet it really is all so simple, myself and millions of others can easily tell Benedict what he should be doing, because the College of Cardinals and the USCCB surely are not. If most of us would stop supporting and protest the likes of Benedict, Bush, the Bush family, Cheney, Falwell Robertson, Perkins, Dobson, Santorum, Brownback, Hunter, McConnell,Lugar, Hagel, Hatch, Graham, Inhofe, Lott, Sessions, McCain, Flake, Cornyn, Barton(Tx) Hastert, Rove  and all those other creeps the world would be a far better place to live and grow for all of us rather than the death chamber it has become.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Give peace a chance, better yet DEMAND PEACE.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116405070233732272?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116405070233732272'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116405070233732272'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/war-religion-and-politics-namely.html' title='War, Religion and Politics, namely, the Republican Party And The Catholic Church and Other Theocons'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116377927315785060</id><published>2006-11-17T09:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-17T11:43:19.660-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Woman, The Family of Man/Women And The Archaic Institutions That  Damage Both</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This morning I was watching Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez on Democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. The two guests were Alice Walker and  Isabel Allende, both authors of renown. Both are quite remarkable women. These two women made me think of two things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first was that Nancy Pelosi  will soon become the Speaker of the House of Representatives and this eventuality is of huge import for the progress of women in america and in the world. I have long held the belief, 35yrs, that women being the largest minority in the world represents a travesty and an abomination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This second class status of women is caused by men through the institutions of religion and government. These institutions may be coming archaic, in their present structure or completely archaic in any form because they no longer serve 'The Family Of Man'. Now to a very large measure they serve only themselves and therefore no longer deserve our 'worship'. These institutions were created by men. The human family may be  growing beyond the structures and strictures of these institutions which now seem to serve us all so poorly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One could write an entire set of books on the widespread failings of religion and government and the enormous gamut of damage these institutions do to limit 'The Family of Man'. I do not intend to even attempt such a task. But I will say that to see the widespread failures of both of these institutions one has to merely look at what is happening in the U.S. under the Bush/ Repub/ Catholic/ white Baptist(SBC)  merging of government and religion in our beloved America and the resultant damage this has caused in America and all over the world. Most especially in Central and South American and all over the Middle East.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does anyone actually need to be reminded of the enormous number of dead caused by our government, via CIA, and the Catholic Church,my church, via it's terrible neglect and refusal to take a strong, vehement and loudly vocal stand on behalf of these areas of the world. Our gov't does what it does for political gain and equally so for the monetary gain of big american corporations. Our gov't has been doing the corporation monetary gain thing for a hundred years.&lt;br /&gt;It has been doing the political thing for as long but most especially since the beginning of the CIA in 1947-8 shortly after WWII when we dropped the atomic bombs and became in our own minds, a super power because of the bomb and that my friends is the true long lasting effect of getting the bomb. We, America,  has become a monster, a world wide monster with now no one to stop us due to the end of the cold war. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But just maybe this recent election signals an awakening of the american people as to the destructive effects of these two institutions, religion and government. Just possibly we americans are just beginning to understand the meaning of the phrase, 'The Family of Man'. Meaning ALL human beings are of one family, we all belong and are a part of each other. Religion and government are not yet even close to that understanding. As social institutions constructed by man/men (not women) religion and gov't have fallen far behind what ordinary human beings are now on the verge of recognizing, 'The Family of Man', a song by Sly And The Family Stone, and which has now taken on enormous significance as a result of the extraordinary and enormous damage done by the Bush/Repub gov't and their theocon supporters namely the Catholic Church and the SBC, the white southern confederate states Baptist Church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lineage is long but easily traceable. It seems to have begun under Pope Urban with the First  Crusade, next came the Spanish Inquistion, then came Hitler and the support he received from the Catholic Church, then came the atomic bomb, next the CIA, then came a turn for even worse times under Nixon and his pardon by Gerald Ford which resulted in no complete and thorough investigation and as a result of no investigation things got ever worse under Reagan, Bush 41 and now the most criminal of all George W. Bush 43, a seriously flawed human being and his iron triangle of suporters Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove( who is widely regarded as Bush's brain and the master architect just like whats-his-name under Hitler. And so we arrive at what we have and have had since dubya became prez, the Republican war machine an engine of destruction and death. And the absolutely unwaveringly staunch supporters of this machine of death the Catholic Church and the White Southern Confederate States Baptist Religion as well as some other absolutist and fundamentalist religions/churchs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any religion that supports absolutism and death is totally corrupt, having forgotten the laws of God and the teachings of Jesus Christ. Finally on this aspect of today's life in america, any religion that merges/mixes religion and politics actually causes and enhances the corruption and destruction of both. Any and all religions that do these things are both fundamentalist and jihadist no matter whether they are in the Middle East or America because they do vicious and egregious harm to 'The Family Of Man'. All of these religions and governments are satanic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, on to the wonderful Alice Walker and Isabel Allende who made the aforementioned thoughts gel in my mind. It was Alice Walker who used the phrase 'The Family of Man' this morning and brought it to the forefront of my thinking as she spoke on democracynow.org.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These thoughts have been floating around in my mind, some for the last 35 yrs, namely those about the second class status of women. And some just since Mr. Boosh and his iron triangle came to power, a very dark day in the history of america, actually the darkest day. The Bushco and the Bush family republicans represent the VERY WORST that exists in our beloved America. This group of corruption, the theocons and the neocons and the corporatocracy began the en-darkenment that now exists in America. I hope the Dems can turn around at least some, hopefully all of this en-darkenment and death if given enough time probably twenty years or more(Supreme Court, gotta get those Catholics off because they do the bidding of the POPE) and he has a very different, very narrow and dangerous agenda for America and the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church in it's present form no longer serves any useful, helpful or constructive purpose in this world because it is an engine of death and destruction via it's own actions and those of the Bush Repub gov't it so completely supports. And this agenda most egregiously violates the laws of God and the teachings of the true Christ, not Bush who on four ocassions has claimed to be the christ(small c).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So thanks to the words of Ms. Walker and Ms. Allende many thoughts that have been floating around in my mind and yet unconnected came together into a coherent whole. For that I am thankful and this is my prayer of thanks to God The Almighty and the Father of 'The Family of Man'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amen&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray for peace&lt;br /&gt;Give peace a chance.&lt;br /&gt;ONLY DIPLOMACY,  NEVER WAR&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us give the Repubs two years until the 2008 elections and if they can't give peace to the world we must throw them and all their leaders OUT OF ALL OFFICES.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us throw the Bush family out of all and any political power forever, how can one family do so much damage.&lt;br /&gt;Let us finally and truly get rid of Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove, Gonzales, Powell(both father and son, Ashcroft and Rice so they can never regain any political power, ever again as they seem to be very diabolical/satanic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let the Dems have 10yrs and if they do not bring peace to the world then we must throw them out of office.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116377927315785060?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116377927315785060'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116377927315785060'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/woman-family-of-manwomen-and-archaic.html' title='Woman, The Family of Man/Women And The Archaic Institutions That  Damage Both'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116314340488720388</id><published>2006-11-09T23:52:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-17T12:47:41.076-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Tyranny Of The Religious Right And The Repubs</title><content type='html'>Everything the Bush/Repub admin is guilty of the Catholic Church is equally guilty of. Because the Catholics ARE the radical extreme religious right in america and yes they have just been voted OUT by the american people.. That brings us a step closer to THE REAL DEMOCRACY we once had. Lose the Catholics gain our democracy and get a step closer to ending the Catholic Tyranny over America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And Richard Pombo, another Catholic, who is the killer of the environment has just been thrown out of office by 'we the people'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then their is the Catholic Republican cabal who receive huge amounts of cash and support from the likes of Rupert Murdoch, a Catholic, and the biggest telecarrier of porn in the USA. Why does the Catholic Church not vehemently speak out about this rather than bashing gays who have no control over what they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also there is, according to Alter  Net and Jeff Marshall,  Nicholas T Boyias who is owner and CEO of Marina Pacific Distributors a producer of gay porn who is a regular contributor to the Repub party and their partners in the Catholic Church all of whom claim to be the party of god(small g).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must also remember Jeff Guckert Gannon, another gay, who worked for the repub party and mislead us all. Is that really how the Catholic Repubs function.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apparently Ken Mehlman of the Catholic Repub party is also gay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry gay people we all are just trying to figure out the party of god(small g). I do not hate or even dislike gays, I just hate the self described party of god. Any religion or government who dehumanises anyone strips their God given soul from them. Our God given soul is the very essence of our humanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing we don't know about this election is how many votes were corrupted by the Diebold machines. ie. just how many more seats did the Dems win that we know nothing about. The clue to that is why did George macaca Allen not call for a recount, it would seem to me that given his bluster and pomposity he would have wanted to do so and was told not to by the Rove/Repub party, and just why did they did they stop this pompous ass from his recount. In other words are they afraid of a recount for some reason such as a fear of the public finding out that there were hacked Diebolds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we don't really know how badly the Dems were Diebolded.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thought is that the Rethugs are saving the Diebolds for the 2008 election. So the question is, are 'we the people', the american voters  going to be Diebolded in 2008???&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Time will tell, Nov 2008 will reveal all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for now I think all the Diebold machines must be bought back by Diebold and all the money returned to the american taxpayer. Moreover Diebold must be investigated in great detail for it's part in the political corruption of america. Every aspect of this company must be investigated because it is clear that they can make good machines. How do I know this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here in Ohio, the home of Diebold, there are many thousands of Diebold machines at banks and they never make a mistake. I have used these machines for some 3o years and never have they made a mistake. So why is it that Diebold makes electronic voting machines that can so easily be corrupted/hacked. I think that is deliberate on their part. And so Diebold executives should be put in jail for the rest of their lives and stripped of their wealth for the damage they have done to the fabric of our american society. And why is it that Peter Hoekstra et.al. a repub from Michigan wrote the HAVA legislation that mandates all of America must use electronic voting machines. WE must throw him and his machines out with the garbage because that is what Hoekstra and Diebold are, just garbage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My next thought is that Ken Mehlman is a complete ass. He said something about holding everyone involved in our efforts(meaning repub election efforts) to a high standard, wow talk about denial of reality and turning the truth upside down is there  no end to the egregious hypocrisy of all these repubs. So what did they actually do after Mehlman's statement, they used rascism to defeat Harold Ford jr, where Tennesseans just heaped shame all over themselves. The repubs pandered to the lowest in our society. as they always do with their endless use of fear, smear and queer tactics to win elections. They pandered to the white southern confederate, and probably Baptist Repubs(the party of god, small g) so widespread throughout that state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The rethug party is the party of Rove and Gingrich corruption, that is what it does and that is all that it does, constant never ending corruption whereby they violate every known to be good standard, value and behavior in our society. This party is not the party of values and decency, in fact they define and embody all that must never be allowed to occur in our political system. This is the party of hate and intolerance, as John McCain once said of Jerry Falwell  and I now say of people like Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, Lynne Cheney(listen to her speechs) and the entire crew of Catholics, and non-catholics, at Fox News(starting with the screaming Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity(both Catholics) Laura Ingraham, Rush 'the scourge' Limbaugh and his brother, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, Ted Haggard, and the new guy Glenn Beck, the less obvious Tim Russert(also a Catholic), and the other less obvious Charlie Rose and many thousands of others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mehlman, in saying what he said is proof positive that they have learned nothing and are still blinded by their radical and perverted mindset, and that is a terrible shame. We only have a two party system and can't afford to lose either party, as we lost the democratic party for the last seven years.  With the loss of either party america has no system of 'checks and balances'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So given Ken Mehlmen's and Karl Rove's intentions it looks as if we are going to lose one party or the other because of the repub party mentality. They will either kill themselves or they will kill the Dems and it is their oft and clearly stated intention to destry the Democratic party. And  if so chaos will result in america.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Frankly, I don't care for or about either party because I am an independant voter and as such care only about my beloved America and will not allow either party to damage or destroy it. Nor will I allow the Catholic Church, my church, to destroy it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which leads me to my next point that one huge weakness in our democracy is that we only have  two political parties. We need to have five or six like the British or more like the Israelis' have, then no single party can ever again gain total dominance and therefore a stranglehold over our entire country. In a multiparty political system no one party can ever have enough power to rule on it's own, coalitions must always be formed and that means that each party serves as a 'check and balance' against every other party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This adversarial form of politics is the best protection that 'we the people' can have against political hegemony as has occurred for the last so many years under the Theocon Catholic Republican party and Bush family rule. Under their rule we almost lost america and we're not  out of the woods yet because the work to correct the course in america will just begin with this election.  The Theocon Catholic, SBC Repub party still represents a great and seemingly unending danger to our America. I fear these groups will never quit or see the light of day because they will just fester slighty under the surface of american politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the information just keeps on coming out. And the band plays on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church, the SBC and the Republican party. None of these institutions are patriotic. How could any religion standby and just let the torture legislation be enacted. That fact alone condemns all the religions who said nothing or almost nothing as Pope Benedict XVI said almost nothing when he should have been screaming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Give peace a chance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray to God for peace and don't depend on religious institutions to speak out for peace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DEMAND DIPLOMACY, FORBID WAR&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Killing is never right unless directly attacked and 'THEY'  the Iraqis did not attack us, only Bin Laden attacked us and his supporters in Saudi Arabia who are such good friends of the Bush family. It makes one wonder doesn't it. Just what is the Bush family up to. And just what is the Saudi family up to. Is it all just one big coincidence, me thinks NOT.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116314340488720388?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116314340488720388'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116314340488720388'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/tyranny-of-religious-right-and-repubs.html' title='The Tyranny Of The Religious Right And The Repubs'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116310807818940467</id><published>2006-11-09T15:38:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-20T14:37:28.186-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank God</title><content type='html'>Well the good guys won this time. The Dems and us independants stuck together for the common and greater good. We defeated, for now, the Theocons(Catholics and White Baptists) the neocons and the corporatocracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also it is quite possible that some Catholics and white Baptists saw what was really happening to our country and their families and changed their minds about following dogmatic ideology and decided to vote for America and the common good of all and especially their families best interests. I sincerely hope that is the case and if so I warmly and heartily welcome all of them to work for a better and far more fair America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God bless all of you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yes I have tears in my eyes as I wrote the above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And finally we will have to be vigilant and make sure that the promises offered by the Democratic party to work on behalf of 'we the people' are exactly what they do. So in reality this is a good beginning but it is just barely a beginning and so 'we the people' must remain patient and at the same time forever vigilant that we never lose what we almost lost our American democratic values and institutions, our very precious democracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next thing is the repeal of the Bush/ Catholic Repub 'Torture Legislation'. Let's be sure we do not allow america to become another nazi party. Also the lowering of taxes on the poor and the middle class and the increase of taxes on those who can afford it. Let's make sure that our border policy not be controlled by Vincente Fox and the Mexican gov't. Instead let us DEMAND thatthe corrupt Mexican gov't, police and military and the 15 families who own 90% of the wealth in Mexico immediately begin working to get the poor Mexican citizens out of poverty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let all Americans demand the Catholic Church and our gov't put equal pressure on the Mexican gov't to STOP this endless impoverishment of Mexican citizens and the endless impoverishment of all peoples throughout central and south america.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic Church and a few american corporations like Brown Bros. Harriman(Prescot S. Bush and George Herbert Walker) are the reasons why we had Hitler and the nazi party and therefore WWII. The Catholic Church and american corporations are the reasons why there is so much poverty in america, Central America and South America and throughout much of the world. Our gov't must work to provide a healthy business climate but a controlled one at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;American corps. that step out of line and commit 'crimes against the people' of america or any other country must be prosecuted, their executives stripped of their wealth and put in jail for long periods of time. Corporate crime will drop off rapidly and drop to a small trickle. Punishment works very, very well against corporate and all white collar crime.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our entire american electoral system/process must be fixed. We must end the electoral college, stop the use of electronic voting machines either completely and forever or until Diebold, ES&amp;amp;S, Triad and Sequoia systems can prove they are error proof, verfiable and completely transparent. The Canadian electoral process is simple, cheap and tamper proof. And as a result the Canadian people trust it completely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Election reform must include the ending of horrendously long and vicious Republican/Rove style campaigning, which does nothing but depress the voters and keep us from voting because we are all sickened by the process. Anymore Repub/Rove elections and they should be tried, fined and put in jail. Waht was done to Harold Ford jr. by the Rove election machine was an abomination. The entire state of Tennessee just heaped more shame on themselves. But as always that is the Confederate south for you, they spawned the KKK, the white supremacists and the neo-nazis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Election campaigning must be limited to one month and limited in spending to a very small amount of dollars. Corporate contributions of all kinds must be stopped.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Term limits must be employed, senators and representatives must limited to eight years in office. Since women are over 50% of the population 50% of congress and the SCOTUS must be women. We need a woman president and a black president ASAP. This endless old boys club dominated by white men must be stopped immediately. And all faiths must be represented in congress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pray for peace, give peace a chance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only diplomacy, never war&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116310807818940467?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116310807818940467'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116310807818940467'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/thank-god_09.html' title='Thank God'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116310530449733994</id><published>2006-11-09T15:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-09T15:48:24.513-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank God</title><content type='html'>Well the good guys won this time. The Dems and us independants stuck together for the common and greater good. We defeated, for now, the Theocons(Catholics and White Baptists) the neocons and the corporatocracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also it is quite possible that some Catholics and white Baptists saw what was really happening to our country and their families and changed their minds about following dogmatic ideology and decided to vote for America and the common good of all and especially their families best interests. I sincerely hope that is the case and if so I warmly and heartily welcome all of them to work for a better and far more fair America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God bless all of you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yes I have tears in my eyes.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116310530449733994?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116310530449733994'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116310530449733994'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/thank-god.html' title='Thank God'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116283479046107058</id><published>2006-11-06T11:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-09T15:37:52.063-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bush And His Corrupt Catholic Friends</title><content type='html'>The WH Office on Faith based iniatives must be disbanded. I do not want my tax dollars to be used by the repub party to spend my tax dollars to use religion for political gain. The two religions most responsible for the deep divisions and fracturing of america are the Catholic Church, the pope and the bishops, and the white southern confederate states Baptists(the land of slavery, killing of blacks, the KKK, the white supremacists and the neo nazis) and who must never get any of my tax dollars to further divide/fracture/destroy america along religious lines and the issues of abortion and gay bashing issues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And especially given the fact that these are hate groups espousing hate issues, none of which are consistent with the teachings of Jesus or the laws of God. I do not in anyway support hate issues or anyone employing that mindset. And especially given the fact that these issues are used for political reasons, to enhance the power of the repub party and destroy the dem. party which is our only other party. What you say destroy the Dem party, yes that is exactly their intention and the repubs have said it out loud and in very clear terms uttered by Rove etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The destruction of the Dem party is very near even if they win tomorrow in the 2006 elections and gain some political power. Because these hate groups, of the Catholic  and Baptist churchs, will never stop their aggression and hostility toward every one else who do not exactly follow their ideology. Which means that even if they lose some and thus have to share some  political power now they will regain their diabolical stranglehold over all political power in america in the 2008 elections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The end effect of that occurring will be the destruction of our american democractic values and institutions, which has already occurred to a large extent, and by which america will become another theocracy in the world which is full of hate and easily willing to attack other theocracies i n the world. The problem is that all theocracies THINK they know the mind of God(the sin of PRIDE) and are absolutely convinced they must act on what they believe is a moral/theocratic imperative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can tell you that only God knows his own mind and absolutely no one on this earth or in the next life will/can ever know the mind of God. So they are all heretics and blasphemers , completely lacking in humilitiy and certainly not fit to rule or govern in any way. Nor are they fit or entitled to have control over the lives of all the people of the earth. So be they Catholic jihadists or Islamic jihadists they must be controlled by the people/citizens of the world lest they destroy us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of these groups must be held in check lest they destroy the creations of God namely, the human race with all of it's foibles and it's free will given by God, as well as the planet upon which we live. These hostile groups in america will NEVER understand the admonition against the merging of church and state embodied in our Constitution and the adminition by Jesus of rendering to Caesar... and rendering to God... and if they understand these admonitions and still choose to set them aside for the sake of PRIDE and zealotry they damn themselves and what is worse they drag all of us along into the abyss of their abomination unto God and man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their is something terribly wrong with these groups and their mindset. To destroy america and possibly the world for the sake of their personal beliefs against abortion and gays is so utterly wrong and yet they are blind to their own mindset and the inherent dangers within it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Truly a rotten tree cannot produce good fruit. The end never justifies the means. A potentially good goal is forever damned when a sinful/destructive means is employed to gain that goal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Give diplomacy and peace a chance. Better yet accept only diplomacy and do everything to block war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember the stupid warped twisted logic that 'THEY' attacked us first is pure bullshit and the catholic repub politicians who use this logic to defend the Bush family oil wars are equally full of bullshit and should be denied the Sacraments. But that will not occur because the Pope and the Catholic Church completely endorse the Bush/Repub war machine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'THEY' did not attack us first. Only Osama bin Laden, a Saudi attacked us and he should have long ago been put in a Saudi after a trial in the US and then another trial in Saudi Arabia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Osama bin Laden did it so he and only he and some of his close cohorts should have been attacked. Iraq and Afghanistan citizens should never have been attacked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Islam is not the problem, as Prof. Kahleel Mohammed says 'POLITICS IS THE PROBLEM.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Make peace not war. Pray for peace, oppose war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just to remind everyone, I am a Catholic, and an independant swing voter since the Vietnam war and a social warrior, a fiscal conservative and a Constitutional conservative. Don't mess with the Constitution, and save the tax dollars which should be used to benefit the tax payer, not the wealthy or the corporations.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116283479046107058?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116283479046107058'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116283479046107058'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/11/bush-and-his-corrupt-catholic-friends.html' title='Bush And His Corrupt Catholic Friends'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116231570692738200</id><published>2006-10-31T11:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-09T15:11:32.476-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Elections 2006</title><content type='html'>It is of little wonder that Jenna Bush, if it's true, is reported to be in the process of purchasing 140,000 acres of land in Paraguay. Isn't that one of the countries where so many nazis escaped to, helped by the Catholic Church at the end of WWII to evade the Nuremberg trials.  And just exactly what was the church trying to hide about their complicity with the nazi party and the holocaust prior to and during the war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could Jenna have studied spanish and be purchasing this huge amount of land in order to evade a Nuremberg investigation of her father via a turnover of our gov't from the domination and complete stranglehold by the Repubs to one where the Dems gain enough power to begin investigations into the Bush admin. Such an investigation will most likely result in the revelation of the complete and totally widespread corruption of our democracy and democratic values and institutions( torture legislation,merging of church and state in violation of the Constitution, loss of free speech, loss of free press, use of religion for political power, use of taxpayer funds to benefit religions, lying to the american peopleaided by MSM, enormous misuse of gov't monies to benefit certain companies like Halliburton,Bechtel,Blackwater, Carlyle Group etc ad nauseam) by the Bush family, the Bush admin and the Repub party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could Jenna be purchasing this huge amount of land in Paraguay so the Bush family can escape to Paraguay rather than risk certain impeachment and imprisonment and loss of family wealth?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or will Bush either attack Iran or provoke Iran into an attack so he can declare martial law in america and stop the Dems from coming to power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or will the Dems, despite being so far ahead in the polls, suddenly lose on Nov. 7th via vote fraud, vote suppression(already happening here in Cleve, Oh. through the use of mass confusion among election officials) and Diebold electronic voting machines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The use of fears, smears and queers(fear mongering re terrorism, fake terrorism; smearing of the reputations of Dems via swiftboating, rascism and vicious personal attacks; and  hate mongering directed at gays/lesbians) is not working any more or is marginal at best, all showing a Dem sweep in all the polls and therefore a Dem sweep on Nov. 7th.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since these Repub tactics which have worked so well in the past three elections are no longer working just what will the Repubs do, time will soon tell.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116231570692738200?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116231570692738200'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116231570692738200'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/elections-2006.html' title='Elections 2006'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116231312771768445</id><published>2006-10-31T09:28:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2006-11-05T13:19:38.676-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Some Observations</title><content type='html'>Saddam Hussein is being prosecuted for crimes against humanity. I wonder when those in our gov't who put him in power and kept him in power, like Rumsfeld, will be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. Also when will Bush and Cheney be prosecuted for the same, as well as John Yoo,Alberto Gonzales,Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft, Stephen Hadley, and David Addington, Karl Rove, Dick Morris, the neocons, the theocons, Paul Wolfowitz and Diebold  be prosecuted for conspiracy and crimes against the American people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What was the Catholic Church's involvement, especially the popes, in the Republican conspiracy to defeat Lopez Obrador and manipulat the election so that Calderon, who was far behind, and yet ended up winning the election.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why does the Catholic Church, my church, always come down on the side of the wealthy in america and in so many central and south american countries. Why does the Pope support the wealthy against the poor. Other than few and feeble speechs and letters why does the church and pope not speak out more vehemently on behalf of the poor as Jesus did.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why is the Pope so involved in the manipulation of american politics via his total support of the Republican party, the party of death of our troops, Iraqi and Afghani citizens, the death of the Democratic party in america, via the Rove/Repub agenda,  and the negation of 241 million americans rights via the so terribly corrupt Republican party and it's torture policy and total gov't secrecy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How many secret catholic organizations are there that no one knows about, like Opus Dei, why are they secret and what are they doing. I just found out about Opus Dei last year when Pope John Paul II died and learned that he endorsed this radical organization. I just learned about another semi secret organization supported by the K of C(Knights of Columbus, of which I was once a member) but left when the pope aligned the church with the Repub party after Reagan, the sleeping prez, became prez. This organization that I just learned about is for the express purpose of outlawing all abortions no matter what the reason, even if their is clear danger to the mother. It's OK if catholic women have so little value for themselves and their lives that they choose to go along with this kind of insane thinking but this should NOT EVER be forced on all american women by law, enacted by the Rep party which is so full of catholics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been an independant swing voter since the Vietnam war and prez Nixon's corrupt repub admin. I will from now on always vote Democrat and continue to do so until the damage done to america by the Repubs under georgie boy Bush is reversed which will take probably 20yrs - 40yrs(get catholics off the Supreme Court) if ever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder just how much oil company stock the catholic church owns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not only against Islamic fundie jihadists but am equally against the two fundamentalist jihadist religions in america, the Catholic Church and the white southern confederate Baptists.  Maybe the fundamentalist Islamic jihadists should fight the Catholic and Baptist fundamentalist jihadists. Let those who endorse the culture of Pro-Death fight each other. Jesus would NEVER endorse war and the killing of any of God's children including muslims.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been reading the Daily Muslim Wisdom(beliefnet.com) everyday for the past five years as a result of Bush and the Repubs and especially the catholic repubs and their constant rhetoric of hate and intolerance toward muslims. I found the Islamic religion to be quite beautiful and so close to that of the catholic religion, my religion, that I was amazed. How could any catholic hate it is beyond me, the only way that any catholic could hate Islam is that they would also have to hate catholicism. Of course it is very possible that catholics and catholic repubs are either ignorant or take their attitudes toward Islam from the past and present pope both of whom totally and completely endorse and support the Republican party which is totally corrupt and the party of hate , intolerance, hostilility and viciousness and run by the high priests Rove, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Falwell and Robertson.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I may not know all the reasons why the aforementioned act as they do, due to so much gov't secrecy, but I can easily see ALL the RESULTS  which are horrific and an abomination unto God and man. For any and every person who claims to be religious there can be NO ROOM in their hearts for any hatred or intolerance. If there is such hate then they are NOT, NOT, NOT christians, which means Christ like because Jesus Christ never ever harbored such feelings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People should remember that the catholics and white southern confederate baptist fundie jihadists are not Pro-Life no matter how loud the scream this at the rest of us but instead are only PRO-BIRTH and once the child is born they, being Repubs, deny the use of TAXPAYER DOLLARS to benefit the TAXPAYERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. The conservative/libertarian Repub agenda wants taxpayer dollars to be used only to benefit the corporations/wealthy. And the US corporations are so criminal and criminally inefficient that they must reob the american taxpayer(lobbyists) and deny a living wage to their workers and import illegal aliens to work for exploitive wages which the Pope and the USCCB( US Conf. of Catholic Bishops) fully endorses even to the point of openly disobeying US laws which do not allow such actions. See, via youtube, Theodore Cardinal McCarrick who admitted that to Wolf Blitzer on CNN and the Archbishop Roger Cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles who also stated that publicly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another situation of interest is the amount of anger and hate just barely below the surface that I constantly hear from Mother Angelica and all the clergy and laity on EWTN, the catholic cable channel. I never watched them very much because every time I stopped my channel surfing at EWTN all I hear is this never ending diatribe of hate and intolerance just barely below the surface. Fr. Shaughnessy spoke the other day during the mass and he was almost furious, it was totally sickening to listen to such a diabolical monologue. He was speaking about hypocrisy but was himself most egregiously guilty of rampant hypocrisy by the very fact that he is a priest, supposedly a christian which means Christ-like and yet not at all behaving in a Christ-like way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What the theocons, neocons, corporatists and repubs have done to America is an abomination to the american people, all human beings and the entire world. And their abomination is not over yet. These groups are way beyond despicable and disgusting.  I fear that the world, america and the catholic church will not survive, cannot possibly survive much more of this Godless behavior by the theocons, neocons and corporatocracy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116231312771768445?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116231312771768445'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116231312771768445'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/some-observations.html' title='Some Observations'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116196508105596608</id><published>2006-10-27T10:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-27T12:04:42.173-04:00</updated><title type='text'>More CIA</title><content type='html'>The US gov't must stop using the CIA to destroy other countries and their elected officials. Our gov't is guilty of criminal intervention in other countries which quite often results in the deaths of many innocent people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our gov't is guilty of complete disrepect for other countries and their citizens, whose human rights are very often violated as we deny them the democracy we want for ourselves. Although since Bush, the repubs and the catholics have taken control of america our democratic are being eroded and our democracy is nearly ended. And the catholic church is totally complicit in these affairs via it's unending support of the Repub party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I expect far more of my religion but apparently it is just as corrupt as the Bushies and the entire repub party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The use of the CIA to achieve instability and death in central and south american countries is quite often done for and at the requests of american businesses. No wonder Jesus threw the money lenders out of the temple. Bush and his many supporters in the catholic community are in direct violation of the teachings of Jesus. But christo-fascism is rampant in the catholic church and is guilty of the deaths of many millions of people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The latest events/interventions/involvements are the Bush/catholic church opposition to Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. Will the CIA be ordered to kill this man, time will reveal the truth. Will the CIA kill Evo Morales and/or Hugo Chavez, Michelle Batchelet and other south american leaders because they do not kowtow to George Bush and Pope Benedict XVI.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there was the Iran Contra scandal committed by Ronald Reagan when Pope John Paul II aligned the catholic church with Reagan and the republican party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there is the matter of the CIA death squad who backed Haitian death squad leader Emmanuel 'Toto' Constant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why do so many americans think our gov't must control the entire world, we need to learn some humility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as the Pope and the Catholic Church goes it has always been a controlling organization, that is how it survives. It just took me all my life to discover this fact. The church never has and most likely never will respect the 'Free Will' that God gave us all. The pope is so completely convinced that he knows the mind of God that he will stop at nothing to inflict his own agenda on america and the entire world via the Repub party control over the USA, the CIA and the US military.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Catholic/Papal/Bush/ Cheney/ Rovian  democracy cannot be forced upon others at the point of a gun or an nuclear weapon. The Catholic Church cannot be saved at the point of a gun, torture, rape or death of human beings. Only peace, love and diplomacy will save the church, nothing else. Any gains via the aforementioned means are stained, contaminated and corrupted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is quite obviously sick and heretical thinking but the church has been guilty of this for a very long time, however via it's complete support of the Repub party much daamage has been, done via this alignment, to America and the entire world resulting in the deaths of many millions, with many more to come. The pope, the college of cardinals, the USCCB and all catholics need to learn much humility, especially the pope who is guilty of having no sense of shame or humility. This pope and the previous pope seem bent on death and destruction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For further information go to www.democracynow.org, wikipedia and Google.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do it NOW!!!!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116196508105596608?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116196508105596608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116196508105596608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/more-cia.html' title='More CIA'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116186930257112505</id><published>2006-10-26T08:56:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-26T09:28:23.046-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Popes, US Gov't, The CIA And The Death Of Millions</title><content type='html'>Ever since the CIA was formed in approx. 1947 it has been used by all american presidents to further US interests, that means corporate interests in many cases, around the world by causing instability and turmoil to topple other gov'ts that did not do as the US gov't and US corporations wanted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course this constant turmoil has resulted in the death of millions of human beings in many other countries. Why, because the new regimes put into place by our gov't have almost always been a dictatorship (Pinochet(Chile) and the Shah of Iran, Bolivia Venezuala, Haiti, Contras(Under the Reagan/Bush gov't during which many people even nuns were raped, tortured and killed, look it up). This occurred many times in central and south america and these dictatorships killed, maimed and tortured it's own citizens and those in neighboring countries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Under the Reagan, Bush 41 and now the Bush 43 gov'ts the popes and the catholic church heirarchy were directly involved and actively supported our govts in their commission of these totally reprehensable actions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I as an american absolutely detest that our gov't did these things and am further deeply sickened by the fact that the catholic church, my church, was closely aligned with these republican presidents and the repub party. So the catholic church, via their total support of these republican presidents, is directly complicit in their activities and equally bears the awful stains of sin against man and God. All of which is completely unforgivable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The thought that my gov't and my church could partner in the commission of these totally unforgivable acts/sins is, to me,  UNBEARABLE.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116186930257112505?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116186930257112505'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116186930257112505'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/popes-us-govt-cia-and-death-of.html' title='The Popes, US Gov&apos;t, The CIA And The Death Of Millions'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116177393539166538</id><published>2006-10-25T05:44:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-26T08:55:08.923-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Popes, George Bush And The Repub Party</title><content type='html'>And the rethugs with the support of the popes(previous and present) and the catholic church hierarchy has once more done a diservice to families and wage earners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The catholic republican party has  been eroding government support for womens issues since Bush became prez. Bush&amp;amp;Co. have just ended the EO Survery. The Equal Opportunity Survey that the government is supposed to conduct to determine whether, among other issues, women are being discriminated against in their employment by any corporations that receive federal contracts has recently been cancelled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the very same thing that Bush and the catholic repubs did to the  gov't agency that is supposed to see to the safety of the mines, where so many have  needlessly died this year. And the same thing that caused the deaths of so many New Orleanians who have died or lost their homes due to the catholic repubs gutting the funds that the Army Corps of Engineers were to use for improving the levies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have talked to two priests and a few other catholics and none can explain these actions by the popes and the catholic church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So much for the pope and the catholic church being pro-life, not one bit, they are only pro-birth and pro-republican. So I must ask the same question once again what does the pope hope to accomplish by his endless undermining of wage earners, families, women and children. The catholic church is not the least bit pro-life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is the pope's agenda for america in the short term and why is he trying to destroy it in the midterm/longterm. Does he think he is Jesus Christ like George Bush thinks he is Jesus Christ. Can both be antichrists? Or are both insane psychotics living in a bubble and disconnected from reality. Actually the pope can only have an agenda for catholic voters, he should have no agenda for america and he should get out of american politics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the pope wants to engage in some limited american ISSUES he should talk to me, I know what he should be doing as do many millions of others, and yet he can't seem to figure it out. He should be supporting the american people and american families by endorsing issues such as education, health care, a living wage and the end to the Bush family oil wars resulting in the death and maiming of many thousands of american troops and the same for many hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani citizens. He should not be attacking gays or women seeking abortions, he should be welcoming them and helping them seek other alternatives in so far as that is possible, which seems unlikely for gays, possibly due to their unique genetics. And above all the pope should not be supporting the likes of George Bush or any member of the highly dysfunctional Bush family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What does the pope not understand about: thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods(oil) love thy God and love thy neighbor(and that includes jews and muslims) the seven cardinal sins, dividing the loaves and fishes for all to have something to eat, Christ throwing the scribes and pharisees and money lenders out of the temple, etc.etc.etc. Just what exactly does the pope not understand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like George Bush, the pope has been a complete failure at managing american politics both foreign and domestic which he should not be doing in the first place. Due to Bush/papal politics america has become a deeply fractured country. There is no longer 'we are all americans' now we have a deeply divided country, there are only red states and blue states and a huge amount of hate and intolerance coming from the right wing christo-fascists and directed at all other americans, some 241 million of us. The pope is working in close cooperation with crazies like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed and Grover Norquist and so many of that ilk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you like what has happened to america, thank a republican, the party of hate and intolerance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you like what has happened to america since Ronald Reagan became prez thank Pope John Paul II because he was the one that aligned the catholic church with the rethug party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you like what is still happening to america thank Pope Benedict XVI.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Something is terribly wrong with both of these men and the catholic church, my church, of which I am ashamed for the destruction it has done to my beloved america.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wrote a lengthy e-mail to Bishop Lennon of the Cleveland Catholic Diocese addressing many of these issues but have received no response, I am not surprised, don't expect any response, it's just as I thought. My guess is that either the Bishop has no response or he knows what the pope is doing is wrong and destructive so their is nothing for him to say. I did not even get a form e-mail/letter explaining any of the issues asked about. Maybe I should send him and endless barrage of e-mails.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush will be in office for more than two years and I greatly fear that america or the world may not survive that long.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The politicization of religion by the Pope and Bush and the repubs is an abomination unto God and man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;St. Malachy, archbishop of Armaugh, in his papal prophecies may well be correst and shortly forthcoming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a deep fear that thanks to the alliance between the pope and the republicans the world is getting ever closer to doom. Certainly America is.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116177393539166538?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116177393539166538'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116177393539166538'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/popes-george-bush-and-repub-party.html' title='The Popes, George Bush And The Repub Party'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116128545197994980</id><published>2006-10-19T11:16:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-19T15:45:32.800-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Catholic Church And It's Unending Support Of The Repub Party</title><content type='html'>Well, the filth and slime of the Republican party and their rotten and illegal election machine is in full swing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since Bush, theTexas twit, became president I have become acutely aware of how religion and politics are being merged in the US, something our Constitution forebade, that is until the Repubs shredded it and twisted it to serve their own political gains.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what just happened is that the Rethuglicant party sent some 14,000 letters to legal immigrant Democratic party voters threatening them with jail and/or deportation if they voted in the coming 2006 elections. According to California state investigators the Rethug candidate who is connected with this is himself an immigrant. Talk about the repubs using vote suppression tactics, well, there it is staring us all in the face.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember these people were LEGAL naturalized citizens all of whom are Democratic Party voters. And the defense by the Rethugs was the Dems did it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The entire Republikan(KKK and white supremacists and nazis') Party always blames someone else  when they are caught for their obviously corrupt and/or criminal behavior. Their would be no reason why the Dems would want to deprive themselves of 14,000 votes in the Orange County, Calif. And this is supposed to be the party of God and the party of accountability. Next the rethugs will blame God for for their corrupt and /or criminal actions. Don't laugh, Karl Rove will find a way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the pope and the USCCB supports and endorses this, how has my religion gotten so corrupt, obviously they are so totally aligned with the Rethug party that their vision of the correct path for any religion to follow is completely warped. The Catholic church has descended into the slime pit of illegal politics with the Repub party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I abhor the present and previous popes use of the religion to gain political power. This merging of religion and politics is an abomination unto God and man. How low will the pope go and for how long before he realizes the damage he is doing to MY America. The pope is a member of another country, the Vatican City State, and MUST not be allowed to involve himself in or exert control over US politics and policy both foreign and domestic. Unfortunately the Vatican is completely guilty of influencing US elections and policy, both domestic and foreign.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apparently the Rev. Anthony Merceica, a Catholic priest confessed to some form of sexual involvement with Rep, Mark Foley(R-Fla, now resigned and under alocholic treatment). So this is another catholic priest pedophile that the catholic church should have gotten rid of a very long time ago, approx. 45 years ago, but obviously did not. So the priest is guilty of acting in sexually explicit ways with Mark Foley.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The priest's defense of his behavior is that (and he must have gotten this defense from the catholic church/ Karl Rove playbook of Repub defenses) was that that Foley, 13 at the time, might have 'MISTAKEN' (this is the blame it on the victim defense) the priests behavior as sexual, while at the same time claiming to be  using drugs(as if that is any defense) and again at the same time admitted they both swam together naked and that he, the priest, performed 'massaging' (whatever that means) on Foley.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other aspect of this situation is that Foley doesn't understand that this kind of activity by this priest did not make him, Foley, a pedophile and that it is absolutely no defense of his own behavior with congressional pages. Further, Foley, a catholic, is using another defense for his behavior which is that he is an alcoholic. Alcoholism, if he even is one, does not cause one to become a pedophile.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So now we not only have this unending priest/pedophile scandal which has been covered up by the catholic church forever but we also have the catholic church involvement in corrupting American politics and the ensuing damage to 300 million american citizens and the damage to 3000 dead american troops in the Iraq and Afghanistan but also the deaths of as many as 650,000 innocent Iraqi citizens via the total support of the Bush/ Repubs and their oil wars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there is the matter of the lifelong devastation to the troops and their families due to the maiming and mental anguish they will carry with them throughout their lives and as sociologists report the torment that each family carries with them for, on average, the next three generations. Then there is the same three generations of damage in the personal lives of Iraqi and Afghani families. Next there is the ancillary/colateral damage that occurs in the communities where these american, Iraqi and afghani families live.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's probably safe to estimate that many, many millions of people will bear the physical, emotional damage and societal damage caused by the Bush/ Repub oil wars and the complicity in and endorsement of the actions of Bush and his Repubs all of which accrues equally to the Catholic Church, the USCCB and the present and previous popes for their complete and total support for Bush and the entire Repub party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is anyone asking the pope, the USCCB(US Conference of Catholic Bishops) and the entire Catholic Church just how they are going to undo the enormous damage they have done to so many millions/ billions of human beings, all of whom are God's children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And right now I am experiencing a profound sadness, a huge lump in my throat and the welling up of tears in my eyes. And this is in addition to my daily anger and the damage it is doing to me and my parents and members of my family who suffer just as I suffer, each and every day that this continues. I have lost almost all respect for my brother and sister for voting republican and their support of the actions of Bush and the Repub party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm so glad most of my family and especially my aunt the nun has died and passed on into God's kingdom so they won't have to experience any of this. I hope they do not know what their church and their government is doing to so many human beings in this world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no way in the entire history of time that hierarchy of the Catholic Church can absolve itself of these most heinous crimes against God and man. My aunt, a Domininican nun and the good Urusline nuns who educated me, never ever taught me that anything like what is going on now has any rightness to it.  ALL of this is unforgiveable and an abomination unto God and man and all the peoples of this world and to our planet so generously bestowed upon us by the Almighty Creator.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A spokesperson for the archdiocese in Miami siad she was 'frustrated' by Foley's lawyers, so she is 'FRUSTRATED' and BLAMING Foley's lawyers. God please help us all is there no end to the Catholic Church's lack of responsibility in all of this.&lt;br /&gt;***************&lt;br /&gt;pause to cry and catch my breath&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now for more Republican crime&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rep. John Sweeney(R-NY) has reported/been caught/ is afraid of being caught so he reported taking money from Abramoff under seemingly illegal circumstances and for a trip to the Northern Marianas'. Was this a vacation or a trip to view their criminal and dehumanizing sweatshops or both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it all just never ends. It is amazing how far the Repub party and it's members will go because they are the party of god(small g) and covered with the mantle of 'righteousness'. And once again let's remember the SBC and the Catholic Church give their full support to this party and it's mindset of criminalizing God. WOW, this is all beyond imagination, I have to keep reminding myself that these two religions support and are part of all this via their support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am in a state of shock everyday. It gets worse at each new revelation of crime and corruption which seems to come out on an almost daily or weekly basis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When is the pope ever going to publicly apologize for himself and the Catholic Church's involvement and support for the Repub party since Reagan became president, and which support has directly contributed to all of these events. He probably never will because he has no shame or humility. Nor does the Repub party have any shame or humility, they just continue committing crimes, both political and civil. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I sincerely believe it is God who, on judgement day, will decide who is righteous. Mere words of being 'born again' and self righteousness do not a truly righteous person make, even if there is such a thing as righteousness which could be nothing more than an artifact manufactured by the SBC fundamnetalist zealots.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Islam there is an admonition which warns about self proclaimed and loudly proclaimed righteousness/ holiness and self aggrandizement. I am paraphrasing but that is the gist of the admonition and is one I live by, becoming even more convinced after reading about the Islamic religion over the past six years, as a result of the first Gulf War. My religion and religiosity is something personal as are my prayers. I do not go about procliaming my religiosity and praying out loud for all to hear. I think it's terribly wrong to aggrandize oneself by loudly proclaiming ones religiosity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ray Suarez, of PBS, in a recent interview about researching for his book, that one can live much/most of ones life in the north without ever having to divulge their religion or religious values. While in the south one only has to be there for fifteen minutes(he meant a short period of time) before being asked these things and having to explain oneself. I'm glad I don't live in the south. The constant throwing about of ones religious values is nothing more than self proclaimed self righteousness and self aggrandizement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only God, on judgement day, will determine who is righteous, and for any human being to do that demonstrates at least a complete lack of humility and quite possibly, at worst, claiming God-like powers and God-like knowledge. Those who claim to know the mind of God, as does George Bush, are possibly guilty of the sins of pride, blasphemy and heresy. Pride is the greatest of these...   and pride goeth before the fall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Islam reminds me that good works are necessary, while loudly proclaimed words mean very little to God. I think that is a great admonition and one we should all live by.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And finally Colorado's republican gubernatorial candidate, Bob Beauprez, has accessed a law enforcement only database in an attempt to SMEAR, a typical repub strategy, his opponent. The use of this database is strictly forbidden by law and punishable by fines and imprisonment. I'll bet neither Bob Beauprez nor any of his staff get tried or punished for this crime. And repub corruption gets worse and more numerous every day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And once again the Catholic Church, my church, has chosen to ally itself with this kind of behavior, a crime, and Beauprez is another corrupt Catholic politician. The church should insist that catholic politicians be honest(without corruption) in their behavior but the church does no such thing. The church should neither support nor damn  politicians of either political party but it supports some politicians(so catholic voters vote for them because the church tells them to do so) and outwardly condemns others just as they did with John Kerry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church publicly threatened Sen. Kerry, during his run for the presidency, with the loss of the Sacraments and possible excommunication and who can know how much damage they did to his presidential bid and how few catholics voted for him. So the Catholic Church has committed the cardinal sin of PRIDE by positioning itself as having a position equal to God via their judgement of him when only God can judge, not a man made institution run by a human being who in no way should ever act in a way that places itself/himself equal to God by performing a function which only God can perform.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And finally, I now look up not only the party of each political candidate that comes into the news for having committed either criminal or corrupt and slimy political acts but ADDITIONALLY make every effort to find out that persons religion. I look at every politician with a critical eye. But I am especially suspicious of and have little trust for those politicians who are Republicans and Catholics or white Baptists. And if they are from the southern confederate states I just have no trust at all for them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These aforementioned seem to have no morals at all and will use any means to justify their ends. These people are not christians(Christ like) being full of hate, intolerance and viciousness just as are Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and so many other so called religious leaders.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus Christ DID NOT, NOT, NOT preach meaness, hate, viciousness or intolerance. Religions and politicians do preach these things. Jesus preached a message of love not hate and a message of life not the killing of others.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116128545197994980?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116128545197994980'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116128545197994980'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/catholic-church-and-its-unending.html' title='The Catholic Church And It&apos;s Unending Support Of The Repub Party'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116077513363431336</id><published>2006-10-13T17:04:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-13T17:32:13.760-04:00</updated><title type='text'>And NOW,  South America, Bush, The Rethugs, AND the CIA</title><content type='html'>Well my friends it was just a matter of time before it would begin, Bush would send the CIA into South American countries once more to destabilize, create chaos, kill and overturn legally and democratically elected governments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has begun in Venezula. Just how soon will Dick Morris, he of corrupt Repub politics used in Mexico, go to Venezuala to wreak havoc and destroy the Chavez government. Soon Venezuala will lose Chavez because he chooses not to adhere to Repub policy in the running of his country. And what will they gain, another murderous dictator as has happened so many times in the past in countries like Haiti(remember the DuValiers, Papa Doc and Baby Doc and their slaughter of many, many tens or hundreds of thousands of Haitian citizens) Chile(remember Augusto Pinochet who was another dictator who slaughtered many tens or hundreds of thousands of Chileans) or the Shah of Iran who slaughtered many tens of thousands of Iranian citizens) yes America did all that and much more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the case of Iran it certainly doesn't take any brains to understand why they hate and fear America, and most especially the Bush Repug administration which invaded Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Someday all the Sunnis' and Shias' will finally get sick of america and unite and for good reason, methinks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WATCH and you will know by what you read and hear. It will start after the US elections unless the Dems win some political power. Watch and you will know what the Rethugs are doing, in your name.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Should you/we feel guilty your damn right we should but the religious right in america never will and that is why they are not at all Pro-Life but instead are really Pro-Death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Should we do something to stop the Bushies from committing illegal and murderous acts in our names, your damn right we should. But HOW. I don't know, unless we withold our taxes and take to the streets, but then there is martial law and the guns that will be turned against us. But then our forefathers thought some things were worth dying for as so many did during the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. But then the religious right have all the power and 'we the people' have none. So the religious right can  support murder as much as they want, which is exactly what they will do. Watch and you will see.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Watch and you will see---&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116077513363431336?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116077513363431336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116077513363431336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/and-now-south-america-bush-rethugs-and.html' title='And NOW,  South America, Bush, The Rethugs, AND the CIA'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116076974409732711</id><published>2006-10-13T13:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-13T17:03:46.980-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Bush Sends Eisenhower, Is He Crazy, No just Diabolical/ Satanic</title><content type='html'>Well, Boosh, from the land of binness, impwatent and macaca, is ratcheting up war with Iran to keep the Repubs in office in the November elections. I hope and pray I am wrong but things sure look that way. With their numbers falling in the lead up to the election just what can Bush/Boosh do to keep his party in power with all the scandals showing up since Katrina including the obvious failure of the Iraq war and all the other Repub scandals which show up on an almost weekly basis. I won't detail them here because they are to numerous to mention and have been talked about quite a bit even by the Repub controlled MSM in America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all, I think Bush, Cheney,Rove and Rumsfeld must be terrified of losing one or both houses of congress because if that happens the Dems will have some power and will surely start investigations into Bush/Cheney/Repub corruption and High Crimes against the American people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the quartet of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld and Rove have gone to the next level. Bush has ordered the Eisenhower carrier group (consisting of the Eisenhower, 2 destroyers one of which is a missle carrying type and a missle submarine and two support ships probably oil tankers which looks to me like one half of a carrier group actually because I thought a full carrier group had more ships in it) to the Straits of Hormuz where it will park itself somewhere in the vicinity of Iran.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just How close will the carrier group go to Iran  and why are they going there?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would guess the carrier group is going there to raise the spectre of war in the minds of the American people/voters and engender even more fear which will certainly be of great help toward the Repubs  holding on to  their complete control over congress. The party of blame, fear and smear is in full swing and they will stop at nothing to maintain their stranglehold over America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what else might georgie boy have in mind.  Obviously the carrier group presents a threat to Iran. So a few scenarios present themselves. One is that the Iranians will attack the carrier group thus allowing Bush to start a war with Iran which will take everybodies mind off the elections and possibly even allow him to use some pretense to stop the elections and/or declare martial law in America to stop angry american protesters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the Iranians do not attack then Bush will FAKE an attack on the carrier group by either sinking or damaging one of our ships resulting in the deaths of our sailors and then he will attack Iran or withdraw from the ships from the area and stir up american righteous (you all certainly know our Bushies are so righteous after all america's entire history is one of righteousness, starting with the american indians). This situation with Iran will also, or so Bush thinks, bring many other countries of the world over to our side as happened right after 9/11 thus allowing Bush and his cronies to manipulate the entire world to achieve the next step in the Bush family oil wars. AND no one can or will stop this insanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As always Bush has the complete support of the US Chamber of  Commerce, the Repub controlled congress and Supreme Court, the MSM and most importantly the right wing fundamentalist theocrats, namely, the Catholic Church, my church and the white confederate states Baptists and the other christian fascists all of whom use religion to further their own political agenda. The other piller of the Rethuglikans are the nazi-fascist neocons who will stop at nothing to further their political agenda no matter the cost to America. So despite the fact that the Repub party and the Bushists are wracked with scandal these two religions and a few others will support and endorse everything he does. The Repubs are certainly not the party of accountability, christianity, reason or reasonableness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So in summary, those are the possibilities as I see them.&lt;br /&gt;**********&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additionally---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is no wonder that the Repubs are the party of torture, read on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I still think Bush is a borderline character disorder, some call that insane. But he is not really insane in that he has lost all touch with reality rather it is more that he has a malformed character due to his childhood experiences. Laura Bush is not so far gone but she is an enabler. Nevertheless, it is safe to say that his malformed character  totally has control of his thinking causing him to do things that no one else would even think of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only is Laura Bush an 'enabler' but so also is the entire congress and the entire Repub party. This especially includes people like the northern crazies like Chuck Hagel, Charles Grassley, Orin Hatch, Dick Lugar, Peter Hoekstra, Peter King etc. ad nauseam. Then there are the southern Republican crazies, including Lindsay Graham, Jeff Sessions, Cornyn, Barton, Inhofe, Pat Roberts, Ros-Lehtinen(Scientologist,Jewish,Catholic,Cuban and protector of a Cuban airline terrorist, she seems to be another Rethug nutcase and friend of Jeb Bush another Repub nutcase and neocon) Bill Frist, Trent Lott, Hastert, Foley,McConnell, Santorum, McCain, Arlen Specter, Brownback, Coburn and DeWine etc.etc.ad nauseam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sen. DeWine, egads, another catholic and suporter of the Rethug torture policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems that if one wants to get endorsed/elected to government one must be a religious fundamentalist/evangelical Catholic or Baptist. And being Pro-Life is mandatory above all else no matter  the damage done to the USA or the World.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually the Pro-Lifers are not really Pro-Life they just say that to get elected. They are really Pro-Birth,  after the child is born they care not one damn bit for the life of the child or his family in fact they are constantly working for the end of any government services for children and families such as education (No Child Left Behind is totally phony and is only used to attack teachers because they teach children to think and the Repubs do not want and in fact are afraid of thinkers, the Repubs want only followers and that is why america will soon fail). Most likely Bush and the Catholics and Bidnness/binness and the neocrats will destroy america but if america manages to survive the damage and corruption of these groups the dumbing down of america and american children will end america.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well anyway, back to the main issue. Everyone must watch what happens with the Eisenhower carrier group. This sholud convince a few more doubter/dummies of the Repub agenda of win no matter what the cost to America or the lives of our military.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I pray every day:&lt;br /&gt;that the american people will wise up to the Repub agenda for America, no matter the cost in human life, and that my friends is not Pro-Life but Pro-Death, which my church the Catholic Church fully supports. No wonder St. Malachy, archbishop of Armagh predicted the end of the papacy because this pope and the last have gotten as corrupt as the criminal, corrupt and scandalous Republicans/Repub Party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;that the Democrats never become like the Rethugs and employ vicious 'slash and burn' win at any cost politics even though that is what it takes to beat the Rethugs, Catholics, white southern confederate Baptists, the neocons and the corporatocracy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;that the Democrats never use religion for political gain because that is a complete abomination unto God and man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am absolutely amazed that the Catholic Church would support such obviously corrupt and obviously murderous behaviors by the Bushies but they do. And I find myself in direct and strong opposition to my church for using religion for political purposes. I guess the current and previous pope have forgotten that Jesus thre all the scumbags out of the temple, and said Render to caesar... and Render to God... I would have never have thought in a million years that I would be completely opposed to my church. It is very difficult for me to accept that my church has become the church that supports the torture legislation of their party the Rethug party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can understand the white southern confederate Baptists desire to merge church and state for political gain because they have always been this way, supporting the mindset of death to blacks because they are nothing more than white supremacists, full of hate and intolerance. Just watch and listen to people like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, Grover Norquist, Dobson and so many others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so I pray---&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116076974409732711?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116076974409732711'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116076974409732711'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/bush-sends-eisenhower-is-he-crazy-no.html' title='Bush Sends Eisenhower, Is He Crazy, No just Diabolical/ Satanic'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-116024686728160008</id><published>2006-10-07T12:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-07T16:48:15.056-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Republicans, Lawyers, And Morals</title><content type='html'>The most courageous talking heads are: Keith Olberman, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Jack Cafferty and Lou Dobbs. These guys have the courage to stand up for America and the American people. It's way to soon to tell but Charlie Rose may be another MSM who may be deciding to stand up to the right wing fundamentalist religious radicals in the US and for America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those groups most responsible for this radicalism are the pope and the Catholic Church hierarchy, the USCCB and millions upon millions of catholic voters, but not me even though I am a catholic I abhor the corruption that these two religions are involved in. The other fundasmentalist radical religion is the SBC, the white Southern Baptist Convention in the Confederate States from Virginia to Texas. What these two religions are  doing to destroy America is an abomination unto God and man and to all Americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Charlie Rose did a good job of putting some pressure on James Baker III, albeit of no avail. Maybe Charlie is deciding that he is not as fearful of the two previously mentioned religious groups and may push ahead on standing up for the principles upon which this nation was founded rather than just putting Repubs and religious people in a position where they can instill fear in the hearts of american citizens. I sincerely hope Charlie joins those few who push for reality and truth, those people who are willing to take an independant/ un-partisan look at the facts rather than living inside the Bush/Repub/neocon/theocrat bubble. I'm hoping Charlie joins the abovementioned group of MSM , in time Charlie will reveal himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now on to James Baker, after that interview it is clear that Baker and the Baker Institute, supposedly non partisan,  are both very partisan because Baker is completely partisan and only to the Repub party. Baker is like all Repubs, not partisan to America, the Constitution, our democratic values and democratic institutions and our citizens. James Baker III is partisan to only one religion the Republican religion of the Repub party. He worships at the altar of the Repub party and not at the teachings of Christ, which is typical of all blind, lock step, knee jerk, Stepford Wives Republican ideologues. They are Repubs first and foremost and not at all patriotic americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I look forward to the day when the aforementioned fundamentalist religions discover that they are being used by the Repub party which is dedicated to greed, avarice and political power. I also look forward to the day when these two religions realize they not only have been had by the Repub party but they  are worshiping at the altar of George Bush who is worshiping ONLY at the altar of corporate money and political power. This is something many of us have known since Bush was still governor of  Texas and watched the political machinations going on in that state which he was totally involved in and helped make them happen. Many of us knew of Bush's lifetime of failures and involvement with booze and drugs, and were appalled at the prospect that he was running for governor of Texas. We have been watching this guy ever since, because we watched his father before him and Reagan prior to that and Ford(who pardoned Nixon) and Nixon back in the days when he widened and enhanced the war in Vietnam and committed so many crimes against the the american people and our Constitution and our democratic values embodied therein.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, I do look forward to the day when these two religions discover the damage they have done and are doing to america in the hopes that they will go back to being religions instead of political organizations fomenting their own narrow agenda. Then the other 241 million americans can begin to undo the enormous damage they have done to america and the entire world, unless the world and america devolves into unending violence and hostility or into life ending nuclear war. Meanwhile I live in daily fear of what these two religions, Bush and the Republican party will do to america and our citizens. Certainly torture is in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last truly GOOD Repub was Ike and I still like Ike. If the Repub party ever wants to leave the land of vicious, aggressive, uber hostile, 'slash and burn', 'smash mouth' politics they will have to study Ike and Goldwater who are the only two decent Repubs since WWII. But they are there to be studied should the Repubs decide that corrupt and criminal politics is not the best way forward and in fact is now under dubya,Rove,Cheney,Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, Ashcroft(he is still with us so don't tell me otherwise) Powell(although I still like him, I think Bush used him and now he knows it and is beginning to admit it) Yoo, Myers, Hadley, Addington, and the oh so corrupt John Bolton, Robertson, Falwell and so many others who care not a whit for America and are only and completely dedicated  to the religion of republicanism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile back at the ranch, James Baker's ranch. I could see that he was just another Repub toady when he said he went to Fla. during the election debacle. It was quite clear to me that he went to push the whole recount process to gain the presidency for George Bush and he said "it was payback time" refering to Al Gore who had offended him. In simple words Baker cares more about payback and viciousness than about America, so he helped Bush steal the election. My guess is that he did the same in the 2004 elections and will do the same in the 2006 and 2008 elections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course in the 2006 and 2008 elections he and the Rethugs will have a much easier time of election corruption and vote stealing because thay have the Republican mandated (HAVA law, Heokstra R-Mi. et al) nationwide use of electronic voting machines at their disposal which they can easily corrupt. All the mfgrs. of those electronic voting systems are Republican especially Diebold which is the most easily corruptable machine and the company, located in Canton, Oh is totally Republican and totally dedicated to getting Republicans elected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because of Diebolds dedication to voter corruption and dedication to the god of Republicanism they should really be located in the state of political corruption, Texas. Welll, on the other hand Ohio is a verypolitically corrupt Republican state so I guess they are properly placed in Ohio, my state, with Ken Blackwell, Secretary of State and the overseer of Repub political and criminal corruption that has gone on so successfully for the Repub party. And Now Blackwell, while overseeing elections in Ohio is himself running for governor, that is about as criminal a conflict of interest as I can imagine. The same things that went on in the corrupt and criminal Florida election occurred in the election of 2004 which allowed Bush to remain in office through 2008.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must go back to paper ballots and a system like that used in Canada. It is a very economically efficient and totally transparent system. Good on ya Canada, you are a paragon of democracy in North America while america and Mexico are becoming less democratic by the month, week, almost daily. Also Canada doesn't have any wiretapping or torture laws. God bless CANADA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember the Mexican elections were corrupted by Dick Morris, a Repub political strategist who works for Karl Rove. Calderon the man who came out of nowhere and was far behind Mr. Lopez Obrador won the election after Morris crafted a typical Rovian Republican smear and fear campaign causing Lopez Obrador, who was the only hope for the poor citizens in Mexico to get any economic improvement, to lose the election. And of course the Catholic Church was also involved in this political corruption which leaves the average Mexican citizen confined to a life of ongoing poverty and that is just one more reason why the Catholic Church is not at all Pro-Life. The church is truly Pro-Death. I could easily straighten them out but they are totally committed to Bush and the Repubs, even in Mexico.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Charlie Rose asked Baker why do so many people think the election was stolen. Well Charlie and James, and thay both laughed as if in mockery of we who thinbk that way while they just threw us out with the comment about some conspiracy theorists(they both sounded like Rove) but I can add some insights to that question.&lt;br /&gt;1. Chads or hanging chads were not a problem until this election.&lt;br /&gt;2. The Repubs controlled the entire state (Jeb Bush R-FL.) and the entire election process(Katherine Harris R-FL.).&lt;br /&gt;3. There was serious election chicanery going on all over the state but it was most egregious in the Democratically oriented districts.&lt;br /&gt;4. So many people were deprived of the right to vote and so manypeoples votes were never counted at all.&lt;br /&gt;5. When there was a hanging chad it was clear how the voter wanted to vote because the chad was punched out as avidenced by the fact that there was a hanging chad.&lt;br /&gt;6. Hanging chads were a manufactured issue, not a real issue. It is very easy to make hanging chads, all one has to do is alter the fiber content of the ballot paper, it's just that simple. Remember Katherine Harris was in charge of the elections and all the accoutrement related to it such as the ballots and their fiber content.&lt;br /&gt;7. I also seem to recall that the voter roles were purged by the Republicans, WOW, WOW and WOW. AND those purged were Democratic voters. That alone is beyond suspicion and really puts the Repub party into the land of VOTE SUPPRESSION. With todays elections being so close it takes very little vote suppression to manipulate and contaminate election results.&lt;br /&gt;Baker was talking about the vote count favoring his close friend George Bush but what he left unsaid was the fact that it was not the vote count, rather it was all the votes that were suppressed, never counted as well as those who never even got to vote.&lt;br /&gt;9. Also I seem to remember something about absentee ballots of which some were lost,  some were discarded and some were just simply never counted.&lt;br /&gt;10. Then the Supreme Court, which was being stacked for decades by the Republican party with Republicans, cut off the vote count at the point when Bush was leading in the count. The SCOTUS should have halted all election counting and ordered the FBI to confiscate all ballots for a criminal investigation. Then either there should have been a lengthy investigation or they should have ordered another election under the watchful eyes of FBI agents and DOJ lawyers. Instead the people of Florida and all american citizens have exactly what we have today, a GIANT fucking mess and a totally corrupt administration, a corrupt SCOTUS and a corrupt congress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So much for James Baker III, his legacy, his patriotism for America(none) and his unqualified dedication to his Republican party. He seems to be as corrupt as the rest of his Texas and Rethuglikan cronies. What exactly is the matter with Texans, Republicans and the Bush family. Just how could one state and one family do so much damage to America, our Constitution and our democratic values and democaratic institutions. Is it simply the corruption of oil money and the arrogance and elitism of Texans, especially republikan texans. Somehow we in america have to find a way of indentifying and choosing politicians with morals and patriotism. The repub party at this opoint in time is totally bereft of morals or patriotism. I fear greatly for America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Baker was touting his law degree and corporate legal work for his success and infering that he was responsible for the success of the Reagan, Bush and Bush success in negotiating various issues. But once again what is he NOT telling us about those negotiations HE was involved in. I sincerely doubeth he speaketh the trutheth. Those who worship at the altar of the Repub party so very often never tell the truth and the proof is the entire Bush/ Repub administration who have been caught at an incredible number of lies starting with the Nixon admin and obviously continuing to this very day. These people really do live in a bubble. And Baker is supposed to be a lawyer, I ask exactly what kind of lawyers do they graduate from those Texas law schools especially the Univ of Texas. They may be some kind of lawyer but they absolutely have NO, NO, No, morals at all. And yet they scream their christianity out loud and incessantly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And speaking of lawyers, a JAG lawyer who is at the highest levels in the JAG Corps said, speaking of lawyers, his profession, that laws cannot be written fast enough to protect America from corrupt lawyers. I am paraphrasing, but that is the gist of his remarks at a law school before an audience of future lawyers. Now that is a guy I would want elected to congress, the scotus or the presidency no matter his party affiliation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AND SO MUCH FOR JAMES BAKER III who doesn't seem to have the morals of a toad, let alone the political morals of someone like IKE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh and BTW, for any of you wondering about the docudrama path to 9/11. In senior business seminar when I was an undergrad I had a brilliant teacher in that course Dr. Teordescu who really got us to study the concept of 'interlocking directorates'. I use that frequently now to investigate politics and political corruption and to some lesser extent business corruption such as Enron and the Bush family involvement in that monster of business corruption.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, to understand the implications of that Disney/ABC pile of corruption and Rovian smear one has to just research Pat Robertson, Disney and ABC and everything becomes completely clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Robertson who claims to be a religious person is really like the Catholic Church in that they are  a political organization dedicated to George Bush, the false claimant to be Jesus Christ, and the corrupt Republican party and neither are religions anymore. Remember Render to Caesar... and Render to God...  Both claim to be Pro-Life when in fact they really are only Pro-Birth and once the child is born they become Pro-Death via their unqualified support of Bush and the Rethuglikan party and it's unending support of war, political corruption, destruction of america, our democratic values ands democratic institutions and the Bush / Rethug laws on useless torture of human beings. These so called religious groups are also Pro-Death in that they do not in any way support the american family or family life in any way. Nor do they support family life in the muslim world or anywhere in the world for that matter.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One quick example, Poland is supposed to be a Catholic country. But Bush has a secret torture prison there, and just how Catholic is that, NOT.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-116024686728160008?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116024686728160008'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/116024686728160008'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/republicans-lawyers-and-morals.html' title='Republicans, Lawyers, And Morals'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115999404518404280</id><published>2006-10-04T15:08:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-04T16:49:23.190-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Torture Legislation</title><content type='html'>The torture legislation is the most vicious and heinous act/legislation of modern times. It is the most egregious example of the Bush/Rove/Repub/nazi-fascist neocon mindset. As Garrison Keillor said the Repub party elevator is still descending, I paraphrase but that is very close. What a wonderful turn of words, as he is so often wont to do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think Noam Chompsky, George Lakoff and Jeffrey Nunberg (all highly skilled linguists) will enjoy that phrase(you all should read the entire phrase) as will Amy Goodman, Keith Olbermann, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert and the wonderful Molly Ivens. Along with Lou Dobbs, some writers on the NY Times and Wash Post the aforementioned are the only ones who cut through the Rovian spin, actually endless lies that  are spread all over America by  the MSM especially Fox, RupertMurdoch, the screaming Bill O'Reill, Sean Hannity, Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson, Tim Russert, Bob Novak etc. ad nauseam.   And are they ever nauseating.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No wonder the MSM is in such a state of decline, they have lost all credibility, just like congress, no one believes them anymore. Those of us who frequent the internet and read a world wide selection of views are the only ones who have the clearest perspective about what is happening. Bob Woodwards new book State Of Denial along with the recent spate of books from Isakoff/Corn of Newsweek and Fiasco and many other must read books. But I digress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So back to the Repub Torture Legislation---&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The torture legislation should be enough reason for all those who voted for it to be stripped of their office, stripped of their pension, retirement and health care benefits, stripped of their  ability to ever work in  gov't at any level, stripped of their ability to be hired by any company that has gov't contracts, and hopefully put in jail for high crimes and misdemeanors (really not at all a misdemeanor in any sense of the word) and crimes against the Constitution and crimes against the American people and for causing great harm and damage to the fabric of our society. And/or maybe best of all they should be stripped of their  citizenship and forever exiled from America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ALL of those who voted for the torture legislation should be immediately removed from office, branded as traitors and terrorists. I am more afraid of them than of any Islamic terrorists. Religious terrorists are the worst be they Islamic, Catholic or White Southern Confederate State Baptists (aka SBC, Southern Baptist Convention).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We all must remember that anyone Bush, our worst and sociopathic pres) so designates as a terrorist can disappear forever into the CIA prison Gulag never more to be heard from again if BOOSH so decides as 'the decider'. This includes any and all Americans as well as non-americans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's only a matter of time  ( coming soon to YOU) before the prez and C in C uses this legislation to completely silence free speech as well as any form of dissent or criticism of anyone in gov't or anyone in any corporation or anyone who complains about any corporation like Diebold, Halliburton or Bechtel or any oil companies, banks , insurance companies or drug companies. It's only a matter of time before BOOSH uses this legislation to make gov't even more secret, to force all politicians to be loyal to him, to enlarge and expand his powers and keep the Repubs in power forever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We got one sick son of a bitch running this country and now he has unlimited power. Is that beyond frightening or what. It seems to me that the destruction of our society and our democracy is close at hand. I know it's a Republic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And, AND, AND the right wing radical fundamentalist churchs/religions completely support this. I am a Catholic who does not in any way support Bush or the Rethuglikans. I wonder when they will come for me. One day three armed men from the FBI might show up at my door, and even though I am innocent they will haul me away to disappear forever. And my church, the Catholic Church thinks that is perfectly hunky dory and just real fine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One could realistically say that the antichrist and his minions are walking this earth, they are among us and have finally and truly revealed themselves via the supporters of this legislation soulless and inhuman and completely unchristian piece of legislation. Bush/ the Repubs and all their supporters are dragging us all down into the pits of hell which they already inhabit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God, our creator, gave us ALL, ALL, ALL FREE WILL. Bush and the Rethugs and the neocons and the fundamentalist religions that support them have just taken our God given FREE WILL away. Just watch this horror legislation spread, slowly at first and then it will pick up speed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What if the Dems get into power. Well, you see that is the point they will never get into power. If there was any possibility that the Dems wouold get into power and could use this legislation the  Booshies, Repubs, neocons and religious fundamentalists would never have passed this legislation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder when certain Dems will suddenly disappear or suddenly drop out of contention for any of the branchs of gov't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now not only is the SBC the religion of the white supremacists in America but the Catholic Church has joined them and is also the  religion of white supremacy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The perfect storm is on the horizon and is approaching if this legislation is not somehow stopped. I don't have any idea that there is anyone or any group that can stop it now that it has passed. Only the American people can stop it and not via the ballot box. Unfortunately it may take major civil unrest or a revolution by the people to put an end to this torture legislation. If the Repubs use this legislation sparingly the American people will probably never notice what is happening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These rotten politicians and their supporters will never stop this legislation or rule it unlawful. These rotten politicians place themselves, their desires, their criminal corrupt and totally unpatriotic desires above all else including the needs of our nation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The guise of national security is a complete pile of bullshit and is used to perpetrate crimes against the American not to protect them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will continue writing until this piece of legislation is struck down in some way, the Supreme Court seems unlikely to do that because four of them are radical fundamentalist Catholics who take their orders from the pope and Bush. In fact I will keep writing until the REpublicans are thrown out of office and the Dems repair the damage they have done to my beloved America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ad Astra Per Aspera&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I learned that from Sr. Lucretia, my latin teacher.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115999404518404280?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115999404518404280'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115999404518404280'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/torture-legislation.html' title='The Torture Legislation'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115998393685455928</id><published>2006-10-04T11:51:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-04T15:08:32.283-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Foley Situation, Repub Party and The Catholic Church</title><content type='html'>The Foley situation is horrendous. It reveals the Repub party mindset. Their political power is more important to them than the life of congressional pages. I have repeatedly said that Bush and the Repubs are totally committed to their party and to nothing else. They are all blind, lock step, knee jerk and bereft of any decency or patriotism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And this is the party the pope of the Catholic church, my church is totally aligned with and so completely supports. This alignment of the Catholic church with the Republican party was done by Pope John Paul II and continues to this very day. I know I have said this in previous blogs but it bears repeating and I will do exactly that and as often as it takes... Which is to say until the church and the pope turn themselves around and become a religion once more rather than just another political party. Render to Caesar... Render to God... And that is another very clear statement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also another thought, Pro-Birth is NOT in any way Pro-Life. The Catholic Church is really only Pro-Birth and not at all Pro-Life, rather once the child is born it is Pro-Death from then on via it's unwavering support of the Bushies and the Rethug party, also Pro-Death, not Pro-Life. Actually there is no such thing as a Republican that is Pro-Life, by their own definition of themselves. Neither Repubs nor Libertarians are Pro-Life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This alignment between the Catholic church and the Rethugs has allowed the Republican party to gain and stay in power. They have a complete stranglehold over all three branch's of gov't. This unending and unlimited support by the popes and the Catholic church and  it's control over Catholic voters has  allowed the Bush/Repubs to commit the worst crimes of any administration ever in the history of the United States of America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic church has become nothing more than a tool of the Bush admin. The Catholic church is as corrupt as Bush and the Rethuglikans are. It has degenerated to their level. I can understand this kind of behavior by the White Southern Confederate States Baptists (aka SBC) who have always been white supremacists, nazis' and members of the KKK. And I am aware of the Catholic church's support of the nazi party during WWII but I really thought that was long gone and a temporary aberration/sin within the church which was not supported by most Catholics especially among the allied nations and especially among american catholics.  But this mindset, instead, is still very much alive within the church, albeit somewhat changed in form.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At one time I actually believed that the Catholic religion was a wonderful religion, WOW was I ever misguided, naive and stupid. Because they, the church said it I believed it. But actions really do speak louder than words and the actions of the church are completely clear. I have talked to a few priests and a few other Catholics but they all refuse to discuss these issues. Why the secrecy. Secrecy has always been a part of the papacy but this level of secrecy seems to have spread within the church and by most signs is now actually rampant throughout the heirarchy, the clergy and the laity of the Catholic church. Reference Fr. John Neuhaus, Opus Dei, that crazy priest in NYCity (McCloskey, I think) Mel Gibson(a crazy out of control catholic) and that crazy guy who represents the Catholic League nd so very many others etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These people and their kind literally and I mean literally cause a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Maybe I need to find a more reasonable and peaceful religion. I hate - HATE. I wish I could do a better job of phrasing that, but thats it. Hate amkes me sick, there now thats better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So again, or should I say once again, the Catholic Church is a white supremacists group just like the SBC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now On To:  The Torture Legislation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Torture Bill is the ultimate weapon to be used against human beings, both non-americans and americans,  and is totally supported by Bush, the Rethuglikan party, the SBC and the Catholic Church. Religion and politics in the US are fully merged and this has corrupted both, it is corrosive to both and is ending/destroying America, our freedoms and rights, our democratic values and our democratic institutions. With this legislation 'we the people' will no longer be served by our gov't rather it is 'we the people' who will serve,  service and be subservient to our gov't and the fundamentalist  jihadist religions such as the Catholic Church and the SBC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm looking forward to the time when the completely right wing biased MSM discovers that it no longer serves any purpose least of all that of informing the people. No wonder the MSM is in so much decline, it has lost all credilibity; as has the Catholic Church and the SBC.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The torture bill is without a doubt the most heinous act of modern times. It is the most egregious example of the Bush/Rove/Repub/nazi-fascist neocon and theocratic mindset that  is strangling america to death. But that seems to be just fine with the Catholic church and it's agenda for America and our people. This legislation is the most un-Christ like  actiontaken against people, human beings, ALL God's Children. No wonder St. Malachy predicted the demise of the papacy and now I see this as a very real possibility. It seems quite possible that the pope and the Catholic church have descended to satanic levels. 'Whatever you do to my brethern you do unto me'. There is nothing unclear about that statement by Jesus Christ, the true Christ. Not Mel Gibson's version of the christ(small c) who is George Bush.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush has claimed, on four ocassions to be christ(small c) but that doesn't make it so no matter how much the Catholic Church or the SBC supports and endorses him. Does the Catholic Church worship at the altar of George Bush or does George Bush worship at the altar of the Catholic Church? Bush is a sick sociopath and for that I can understand him and feel sorry for him but the Catholic Church can make no such claim, so I do not forgive them for what they are doing to America and the world. They are complicit in killing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last time killing was understandable and seemed tolerable was WWII. The killing being done now by the Bushies is totally unacceptable and an abomination unto God and man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Religion when used to dehumanize people and which supports viciousness and aggression has become completely corrupted.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115998393685455928?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115998393685455928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115998393685455928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/10/foley-situation-repub-party-and.html' title='The Foley Situation, Repub Party and The Catholic Church'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115963744481816524</id><published>2006-09-30T09:46:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-30T13:34:04.516-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Mark Foley and the Oh So Righteous Rethug Party and Catholicism</title><content type='html'>I felt a little bit better yesterday after listening to one of my favorites, DeBussey's Claire DeLune, for about ten times. The I listened to Grieg and Sibelius. And For a brief time I was transcended from my great stress about what the Bushies and fundie theocrats of the Catholic Church and the white confederate Baptists like George Allen are doing to destroy America, now no longer the 'Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave and no longer a country of laws with a Constitution and no longer a government that  is supposed to be a government 'by,for and of the people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now America is a government by, for and of  the corrupt religious theocracy including the Catholic church, my church and for which I am deeply ashamed. As the folks of the 'Lincoln Initiative' say America is a government of the people, for the  wealthy and by the politicians, I'm not sure that is exact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*****&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whoa, there are so many things wrong about  Rep. Mark Foley, he is a Florida Republican Catholic Pedophile preying on the most helpless, powerless and innocent segment of our population. This scum is beyond disgusting.  Florida the land of Repub voter corruption and Jeb Bush a member of the family that has done and is doing so much damage to our beloved America. How can one family do so much damage to an entire country,  democracy and our Constitution?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God preserve us from such as these.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115963744481816524?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115963744481816524'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115963744481816524'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/mark-foley-and-oh-so-righteous-rethug.html' title='Mark Foley and the Oh So Righteous Rethug Party and Catholicism'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115954022207242306</id><published>2006-09-29T10:07:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-10-01T12:41:43.060-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Let Name Names &amp; Point Fingers, The Bastards Did It</title><content type='html'>Bush and the Reputhug are number one on my list of the worst politicians because they passed the Torture Legislation. Also all the Bush allies are totally complicit in this dastardly deed. This would include the religious christian fascist fundamentalists especially the Pope and the Catholic church and ALL the Catholic voters for Bush. Also included are the white southern Baptists, co-conspirators with the Catholics who made this legislation possible, encouraged it and never spoke out agaainst it in any way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now it is too late, the time is past, the sin has been committed you have all revealed your total absence of christianity and your alignment with Hitler and the nazi-fascist neocons in america. WWJD. You have clearly turned your back on the teachings of Jesus and the laws of God, our Creator. You have put an indelible stain on your soul, in my estimation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am a Catholic but not their kind of Catholic and I deeply and most humbly apologize to ALL human beings on this planet who have been tortured by the Bushies and the religious christian fascist fundamentalists in America who have revealed their hate for the children of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You  so called christians are no more christians than George Bush, the Torturer, is NOT the true  Christ as he so claims. Instead he is the antichrist and you rotten people have followed him. You are all an abomination upon this earth and the destroyers of America.You people are truly the filth and scum of this nation, your hate for the ALL the children of God and your hate for America has now most clearly revealed itself. How much more damage can you so called christians do. How much more damage can the pope and the Catholic Church do to America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will never forgive you for what you have done to my beloved America. Your power has totally and completely corrupted you. Damn the corporations, oil, parma, insurance, banking and so many others. Damn the wealthy, and all the politicians who did not stand up against this torture legislation. Damn Rupert Murdoch and his greedy empire. Damn the entire MSM who have not stood up for america and against this legislation, this pact with the devil himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RIP, dear constitution, it was wonderful while we had you. May you rest in peace. We will not soon forget you but eventually when those living now die you will be but words in the history books and eventually you will be completely forgotten. As some one wrote Democracy is truly a delicate thing and now it is dead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bush crime family and the entire Bush family has buried our beloved constitution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How one single family can destroy America is almost unbelievable but they have done it. There is not a decent human being in that entire family because none spoke out against the torture legislation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other contributors were/are Hitler, Nixon, Reagan and the nazi-fascist neocons who used Hitlers tactics and policies to destroy America, our constitution, our democracy, our democratic values and institutions. Some addittional contributors to the death of our American democracy are Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Alberto Gonzales, John Ashcroft, Karl Rove, John Bolton, Jeb Bush,&lt;br /&gt;and others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bush government has ended our beloved America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Bush family, once bankers for the nazi party has once again brought the nazi party into full flourish but this time right here in America. The principles of Hitler and Nazism are rampant in America. The Bush family has brought us full circle. I guess once a nazi always a nazi. Unfortunately, we don't have Franklin Roosevelt to order the Bushs to stop supporting the nazi party as he did during WWII.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Evil rules, and runs the earth once again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My Dad is a few weeks short of becoming 91yrs old, for what purpose did he serve in WWII doing what is considered to be the most hazardous duty, that of spending the war aboard Liberty Ships whose life span was considered to be 21 days and after that they were all on borrowed time. Well so much for serving your country. Why did my brother and cousin serve in Vietnam. So much for serving your country. The very things they fought to save have just been swept away by George Bush who serves only his sociopathic desires. Why did my friends serve in Vietnam, for what did they put their lives on the line. For what are our troops now fighting and dyiong when Bush can just sweep it all away. Why are the Iraqi and Afghani people dying by the many tens of thousands, certainly not for democracy because we in America no longer have a democracy to offer them. They must be dying for oil.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God protect and preserve them, our troops  and the Iraqi and Afghani people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God have mercy on the rest of us for what we have allowed to happen by not fighting back against the antichrist and his apostles in our government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;George Bush and your entire government and your entire worthless family can go to hell along with the Cheneys', Rumsfelds', Gonzales', Ashcrofts',&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;***&lt;br /&gt;Including the Dems who did not oppose this rotten Torture legislation. Why do you Dem politicians let the stupid Rethugs define and frame you. Spit in their eye tell them to go to hell and follow the high road, the moral, democratic and constitutional road. You have just lost the 2006 elections and you let the Rethugs do it, once again, to you and all of us who do not support BUSH &amp;amp; Co.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been hearing all day that the new torture legislation applies to only non-americans. That may/may not be true, but it will soon apply to american citizens as well. Does anyone really think the Rethugs will not use this law and the wiretapping law to keep themselves in power by threatening anyone and everyone who opposes them in any way, even just politically.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If Americans think they have seen and are seeing dirty tricks, as the song goes, YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' YET.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hitler has finally invaded America and won. The confederacy has risen again just as the confederates said they would, the old south is back and in complete control of America. The rotteness of the old south is once again rampant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other thing I am reading is that the american people didn't see this coming, or are somehow just asleep and therefore innocent. That is just plain bullshit or Bushit. The ring wingers are not at all innocent in this travesty, the republican base fully endorse and support this, and that includes John McCain, Warner, Lindsay Graham and Arlen Spector. These people just 'fake' their opposition and then fold up at the last minute and give Bushie boy exactly what he wants. Your all a bunch of filth and should spend the rest of your lives in prison.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115954022207242306?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115954022207242306'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115954022207242306'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/let-name-names-point-fingers-bastards.html' title='Let Name Names &amp; Point Fingers, The Bastards Did It'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115936888082190457</id><published>2006-09-27T09:27:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-27T11:41:27.266-04:00</updated><title type='text'>SCOTUS, POTUS, MSM, Christian Fascism And Corporatocracy</title><content type='html'>Keith Olbermann,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you so much for giving voice to 'we the people' , the little people who have no voice in America any more since Bush, the christian fascists, and the nazi-fascist neocons have taken complete control of America and all three branchs of government.  You did a wonderful thing and may God bless you for what you said at the end of your  Monday, 9/25/06 broadcast.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maybe the rest of the MSM will wake up to the damage they have allowed to happen to America by their complicit and complacent behavior in allowing the Bush/Repubs to let 'POWER CONTROL TRUTH'. Quite possibly when the rest of the MSM can no longer function under America's nazi-fascist regime they too will understand, albeit way to late, what they have done in the case of Rupert Murdoch and Fox and what the rest of MSM have allowed to happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks again Keith, a thousand times THANKS, I just cannot say it often enough. You, Jack Cafferty, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert and Lou Dobbs are so far the only ones who have enough courage to stand up for the American people, the 241 million of us who did not vote for and do not support the Bush crime family.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone who demands and loves democracy must listen to Keith's comments. It will probably be on YouTube and maybe even on MSNBC's website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also many thanks to Jack Cafferty of CNN, who has been moving  for awhile to cover the point of view  of those of us who oppose what the right wing republicans are doing to change America into a police state and have since Bush came into office ended our two party 'system of checks and balances'. The Repthug party has revealed itself to be not at all for America or the american people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our beloved America will soon be a police state, like China, when the new wiretapping and torture legislation is passed by the repthugs who have all the political power.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;----------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Charlie Rose, also part of the MSM, had retired SCOTUS Justice Sandra Day O'Connor  and current Justice Stephen Breyer on his show last night,Tuesday 9/26/06. Both Justices have been decent and reasonable jurists. They were very mildly/somewhat critical of what is happening to state and federal jurists as they are ever more threatened by the radical right who are bent on destroying our American court system via a variety of threat modalities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with both of these jurists that our courts are being threatened but I think it is more violent and aggressive than they have let on. All one has to do is review the comments of the texas rethugs(Cornyn et al), Pat Robertson and Ann Coulter all of whom have revealed themselves to be  terrorists,  self incriminated by their public remarks. I am convinced that the christian fascists on the SCOTUS namely, Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito will succeed at this task by comments which evoke and support those who threaten our entire legal system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These four are under control of the Catholic church, my church, which is completely aligned with the repub party and has been since Pope John Paul II made this happen and which continues to this very day and shows no signs of ever changing until America is no longer a democratic country which to a great extent has already happened and will be complete when the Bush/Repub wiretapping and torture legislation is passed supposedly this week according to Republican legislators.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The imminent demise of our country, as one where the rule of law is respected and adhered to by all, is at this very moment taking place. Once the wiretapping and torture legislation has passed, which will take place this very week, America as a country of laws and independant jurists will end. George Bush will have total control over the life of all Americans via his ability to designate any citizen he so chooses to be a terrorist. He can then make any american citizen  disappear into his gulag of secret prisons where they will be tortured and denied of all rights including 'Habeas Corpus'. No american lawyer will be able to help or even contact any one that Bush deems a terrorist without 'Habeas Corpus'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The right wing christian fascists (Catholics and Baptists) who have control over America via the republikan  (KKK) party can cause anyone, they so choose, to be put into the Bush/Repub Gulag simply by reporting them to the FBI, CIA or NSA or any intel agency. They will have to offer no proof other than their own claims that someone they don't like is a terrorist or guilty of some crime against the country or government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, Ratzinger/Benedict you and PJP II have succeeded, thanks to you American democracy is ended. So I offer myself up as the first person to be tortured in the Bush/Repub Gulag run by the CIA. The only thing I ask is that I be sent to prison, not in Syria, but in Poland where because it is a Catholic country just possibly I might have access to a priest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic church and their close allies in the white Baptist church must be quite pleased with themselves for their flaunting of the teachings of Jesus and the laws of God. When the law is passed whichever of you unchristian and morally corrupt organizations can make the call so the Bushies can come for me. I may be a Catholic but I will never agree with what you have done to my beloved America just to satisfy your own private agenda, whatever that is, most likely money and political power. Both popes are an abomination and have committed unforgivable crimes against America and as far as I'm concerned they are no better than terrorists.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't blame the employees of the FBI, CIA or NSA because it is Bush, the incompetent, who tells you what to do and you have no say in the matter. Your oath of office is to support and defend the constitution and America against all enemies foreign and domestic. And since Bush and Cheney are your bosses and it is they who determine 'all enemies' you have to do whatever they tell you. You folks are unable to defend the constitution because the constitution is whatever Bush says it is, which means america no longer has a functioning and working constitution, now it's just a piece of paper which has enormous historical significance but no real effect on the lives of 'we the people'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as both Justices on the Charlie Rose show are concerned,  all I can say to you is that YOU put Bush in power and you can now see what you have wrought upon America. I will never forgive you and you will just have to live with what you did to AMERICA and to the WORLD. You have unleashed this antichrist/sociopathic criminal upon us all. No matter what you say you will never be able to undo the damage you have done, unfortunately the rest of us, 241 million americans, must now live with your mistakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God have mercy on your souls for what you have done.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115936888082190457?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115936888082190457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115936888082190457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/scotus-potus-msm-christian-fascism-and.html' title='SCOTUS, POTUS, MSM, Christian Fascism And Corporatocracy'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115898947726112080</id><published>2006-09-23T00:57:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-23T01:50:16.403-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks to all you religious zealots for our torture and wiretapping laws</title><content type='html'>Al Wynn bragged about stealing the Maryland election 'texas style' and laughed about it with Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tx) on the House floor, in public. We can thank our Judeo-Christian religions for that one and for the torture and spying legislation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you Pope Benedict XVI and thank you Pope John Paul II for your staunch and never ending  endorsement of the Republican Party, the party of the torturers. Both of you lent the power of your office and the power of catholic voters to this end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also a special thanks to John Yoo and Sgt. Alberto Gonzales for our new torture laws and  wiretapping laws along with the neocons and the Repub congress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember when some talked about the US having Gulags and were practically assaulted by the radical right wing talking heads in most of the MSM,  Welll now it's true as Bush has finally admitted that they exist and apparently hold some 14,000 captives. The unitary executive and the wiretapping legislation will add many more people to these American Gulags who will then benefit from the torture legislation  (Specter,McCain,Warner and Graham repubs one and all) that will eventually but soon be used against completely innocent American citizens who dare to exercise their first amendment rights of free speech.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks to all of the above and I hope you are satisfied with yourselves, and maybe someday even you or your children or relatives will be tortured by these laws. But will you stupidons understand even then.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115898947726112080?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115898947726112080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115898947726112080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/thanks-to-all-you-religious-zealots.html' title='Thanks to all you religious zealots for our torture and wiretapping laws'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115894217182745950</id><published>2006-09-22T12:12:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-22T12:22:51.836-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Shock And Awe = Blitzkrieg,  There is NO difference</title><content type='html'>Rumsfeld spoke so very proudly of "Shock and Awe" which is exactly the same thing as Hitler's 'Blitzkrieg'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All one and the same as both show great pride for illegal and unwarranted killing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Und zo Herr Rumsfeld wie now have your position on human life and to know that you are so completely supported by the pope and the Catholic church, my church of which I am ashamed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So much for fundamentalist religions, they're all the same ie. 'do what I say or die'. They all  abound with hate and intolerance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The time is coming---&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115894217182745950?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115894217182745950'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115894217182745950'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/shock-and-awe-blitzkrieg-there-is-no.html' title='Shock And Awe = Blitzkrieg,  There is NO difference'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115852313970090190</id><published>2006-09-17T15:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-17T16:00:53.986-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Pope Must Apologize and Bush Is A Jerk And A Criminal Like Hitler Who Vilified The Jews</title><content type='html'>Just as Bush keeps the middle east countries and peoples boiling so now the pope may be doing the same, or is he just rude and insensitive. If he makes a clear and public apology than he is just insensitive and if he does not than he is helping Bush keep the middle east pot of troubles and problems ever boiling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Should the pope apologize, absolutely YES he should and in a clear and public way. Even if for no other reason than good manners. But there are other even more important reasons as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What could Benedict XVI have been thinking to have made such a stupid and clearly disrespectful statement?????&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know Bush is a jerk and totally stupid and deliberately disrespectful by constantly refering to Islamofascism. Of course he is doing that deliberatel in order to keep the middle east pot boiling which keeps he and the rethugs  in power by keeping the 59 million who voted for him a second time constantly fearful.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115852313970090190?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115852313970090190'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115852313970090190'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/pope-must-apologize-and-bush-is-jerk.html' title='The Pope Must Apologize and Bush Is A Jerk And A Criminal Like Hitler Who Vilified The Jews'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115851711428218961</id><published>2006-09-17T13:11:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-17T15:46:57.496-04:00</updated><title type='text'>US Absorbs Canada and Mexico via NAFTA, Powell maybe now</title><content type='html'>Colin Powell finally stood up to Bush and his cabal of criminals. Also he may have finally seen the light and staked out his position on at least this issue of the US behaving in an immoral way, the Bush way, which is clearly to millions of people in America and worldwide an immoral position as defined by the Geneva conventions regarding treatment of prisoners. Remember folks how America behaves is ENTIRELY about America and not at all about some terrorists who have little to no power in the UN or the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There may yet be hope for Mr. Powell. I still think that if he would denounce imperial republican control over the US and put America's needs ABOVE those of the Repub party he might be worth considering for high government office such as vice pres or even pres. Mr. Powell has to decide just exactly where his patriotism lies, with America or the Republican party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Almost all Republicans patriotism lies with the Republican party first, last, and foremost and not at  all with America or the American people. Their patriotism lies with and belongs to the Big Business interests who provide them with the money to get and retain complete and dominant political power. I wonder what the religious fundamentalists, Catholics and white southern Baptists, will do when they discover that. The 'Totalitarian Republican Christian Theocracy that exists for now in America will soon give way to 'Totalitarian Republican Business Theocracy' in America, to quote myself on both items.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld,Rice, Gonzales and Ashcroft are wrong and they know  they are flaunting the  Geneva conventions. Bush got caught and he is having a temper trantum. Maybe he will implode and go into meltdown. Bush is also threatening to close down the CIA torture program if he does not get his way, oh poor baby. Now he knows how the rest of us feel about the damage he is doing in our name. We feel this strongly and we resent his clearly Hitlerian -Rovian tactics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many millions in the US and many,many more millions around the world are violated and outraged by his corrupt strategies. He is not doing these things on our behalf he is doing them for political gain among his base, the republican party and repub voters which is/amounts to 59 million people, but what about how the rest of 'we the people', the 241 million of us who abhor his tactics and strategies which he is perpetrating in our name.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also Georgie boy is threatening (aka fear mongering) to get the 241 million of us who abhor his relentless use of illegal tactics to conform and fall into line. If Bush succeeds in his fear mongering and use of the 'national security' gambit to get away with his endless illegal activities America will become a country of ever dwindling and diminishing freedoms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, just wait until people discover the SENTRI system (tracking of everywhere they drive) and the resultant  diminishment of freedom to drive wherever we choose whenever we choose and they will finally begin to comprehend that which many/most of us bloggers/protesters/dissenters already know and have seen coming for years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wasn't it Bushie boy who said something about people having to many freedoms/liberties. America is well on it's way to becoming a controlled state like China. This is further evidenced by our one party system whereby the Dems have almost no political power along with the 241 million of us americans who are caught in the republican party/republican government(all three branchs) stranglehold whereby we have absolutely NO POWER or say in our government and the things it does. I say, "No Taxation Without  Representation". For 241 million of us we are already in a China-like police state. No one ever hears our voice becuase the MSM is under Bush/Republican control.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rep. James Sensenbrenner and the House of Representatives in their opposition to the senate and Bushie boy  immigration amnesty strategy know that America is about to lose our borders as we merge with Mexico and Canada via the NAFTA Superhighway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What Mexico and Canada do not yet see is that they will be absorbed by the US when Bush achieves his goals. I don't know about the Mexican people but I would bet that the Canadian people will scream loud and clear, but it will be to late. Quebec will secede from Canada for certain  when that eventuality becomes clear to them.If they want to stop this and remain a sovereign country they had better quickly dump PM Stephen Harper.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since the Mexican citizens are so completely controlled by their government they have no say at all in the matter of Mexico, a Catholic country, being absorbed by the US. Their only hope is Mr. Lopez Obrador and he has lost their election thanks to Dick Morris and the Rovian Republican party strategy of smear tactics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only hope Mexico has of remaining a sovereign entity separate from the US is the pope who totally supports Bush and the Rethugs so he will be useless to the Mexican people. The only other hope for Mexico is if the American people rise up against Bush and the Repub party and throw them completely out of office and into jail for their crime of reshaping America(by deconstructing the constitution) and the world, remember 'A New World Order', without consent of the American people and under complete secrecy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't see that the 241 million of us who are against Bush and the Rethugs have much chance of stopping them. So it seems that Mexico and Canada are doomed to become a colony under Bushie boy imperialism. The thought of all of that just sickens me as does the thought of 241 million Americans having every aspect of their lives under constant scrutiny by the federal government of republicanism under the doctrine of Bushism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WHEN will all of this occur. It is beginning right now under the guise of the NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally another danger of this highway is that America's port security problem will be under control of the Mexican government and it's decidedly corrupt and terribly inefficient military and police. That is a scary thought almost beyond comprehension. The Mexican government&lt;br /&gt;will never be able to provide America with complete port security and would seem to guarantee that we will suffer from a terrorist incident and maybe that is exactly what Bush wants to happen. Maybe that is why the Bush government and DHS are clearly dragging their feet on US port security.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the port of Hong Kong has achieved complete port security in a very short time why hasn't America achieved the same???????? It makes me wonder what Bush, the constantly lying pres, is up to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush really likes pitting terrorists against Americans and keeping the terrorist pot boiling to accomplish this. Bush keeps the spectre of terrorism high in order to force America to keep he and the rethug party in power and intimidate the voters to conform to his idea of "A NEW World Order", dominated by the US.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't think any other countries in the world are going to agree to this. But Bush keeps the terrorism threat high by constantly threatening the middle east countries and just as that strategy keeps Americans fearful and intimidated it may have the same effect on other countries and their peoples. Bush and the nazi-fascist neocons like Cheney,Bolton and Rumsfeld have done this to Israel provoking them into a war with Lebanon.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115851711428218961?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115851711428218961'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115851711428218961'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/us-absorbs-canada-and-mexico-via-nafta.html' title='US Absorbs Canada and Mexico via NAFTA, Powell maybe now'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115843671282984712</id><published>2006-09-16T11:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-16T17:10:46.743-04:00</updated><title type='text'>A New World Order /The Nafta Superhighway/The Pope</title><content type='html'>As some of you may know the Council On Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderburgers and the Pope (Benedict XVI and John Paul II) the Bush admin. inner circle and the nazi-fascist neocons have begun the act of transforming the world into their idea and plan called a "New World Order".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some additional co-sponsors of this plan are Pres. Clinton(Bilderburger,Yalie, Nafta), and I'm sure Hillary, probably Sen. Kerry( A Yalie and member of Skull and Bones like the Bushs') certainly Pres. George H.W. Bush(Yalie and member of Skull and Bones), Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands(Royal Dutch Shell, Bilderberg Group(very secret, 'A New World Order')), Vincente Fox(Mexico, author of 'a comprehensive immigration policy and immigration amnesty and a guest worker program), Felipe Calderon(Mexico, thats why Dick Morris Repub strategist quietly helped to smear Mr. Lopez Obrador (Rove nazi tactics) so he would lose the election), Stephen Harper(PM of Canada), PM Martin of Canada(Bush,Martin and Fox quietly signed the Nafta Superhighway agreement which is unknown to probably 99% of Americans, google up NASCO and Nafta Superhighway program), Pope John Paul II who aligned the Vatican(also USCCB) and the Catholic Church(my church I am ashamed to say), Pope Benedict XVI who maintains that alignment and asks clergy and Opus Dei members(Fr. John McCloskey)  and Cardinal McCarrick to defy US laws regarding immigrants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The NAFTA Superhighway seems to be an attempt to form some kind of north american business alliance between the US, Mexico and Canada to allow business traffic to flow freely from Mexico into the US, through the US and into Canada via mexican trucking companies using mexican truck drivers. This allows for the rapid flow of goods from China throughout the three countries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to bypass American customs, American ports and port security, American trucking companies and  American truck drivers and American longshoreman. These goods would seem to come in via Mexican ports and Mexican port security. It all seems like a giant sellout of America to American businesses by the Bush admin. I don't see how this is a good thing for America but then neither was NAFTA. All of this seems to me to also bypass the American worker/wage earner/ american family/ american voter/ american congress. But then the American congress is totally controlled by the Repub party which let's Bush do anything he wants to do no matter how bad it is for America or the American people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have repeatedly said that a republican is for the republican party first and america last, if at all. Can the Repub party be called a conspiracy, they sure are a closed and well disciplined group that repeats the Rovian party line and talking points and does it incessantly. That is a Hitler strategy but then Rove uses a tremendous amount of Hitlerian strategies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember Hitler and many of his top advisors were Catholics so is there a Catholic conspiracy? Also Pope Benedict XVI was a member of the Hitler youth movement, a scary thought. Another scary thought is that the Catholic church  is completely aligned with the Repub party. It supports the merging of church and state which is not allowed by our constitution. I think the Catholic church MUST unalign itself from the Repub party and will not be able to undo the damage to America resulting from the terrible alignment. Were it not for the support of the Catholic church and catholic voters Bush would never have been elected. So the church has distorted American politics not only doing damage to America but through it's support of the Bush/Repub admin and it's oil and hegemony wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is directly complicit in the deaths of American troops and many tens of thousands of Iraqi and Afghani citizens, people, human beings and children of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Pope seems to forget that ALL, ALL, ALL humans are God's children made in his image and likeness and ALL are equal in His sight and that includes muslims and jews. Yes it's true the pope has spoken out against the war but much to little and much to late. Just the same as the pope during WWII spoke out against the holocaust almost not at all. To me this is beyond shameful both by that pope and by Pope John II and now by Pope Benedict XVI. Maybe there is a confluence between the predictions of St. Malachy and the third secret of Fatima, but with regards to pope number 110, 111 or the questionable 112. Possibly the merging of church and state is wrong not only by our American constitution but a prediction of wrongness as reflected by  the 'Prophecy of the Popes' and by 'The Third Secret of Fatima'. I recall that Jesus said something about  Rendering to cesar... and rendering to God... and that sounds like an admonishment requiring separation of church and state. I believe any confluence between church and state is corrosive to both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh well, the bottom line to me is 'love thy God and love thy neighbor' and 'thou shalt not kill' and 'we are ALL God's children and He loves us all and the task He has set before us is to love as He loves us. I may be simplistic but that means love ALL, including muslims, hindus, budhists, jews, Iraqis, Iranians, gays and lesbians, women and girls seeking abortions, people seeking their free will which is the right of people to choose because when the time comes we all answer to God and I kindda don't think He will allow us to say the pope made me do it or George Bush made me do it or the Republican party made me do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Diplomacy always, war never&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one does not wage war then one is forced to engage in and employ diplomacy. Diplomacy sounds like a more christian(Christ like) activity than Bush and his wars. Next will be Iran and Syria and many more tens of thousands of deaths. We can only hope that Russia and China can stop him, no one else seems able to do that. Bush and his criminals in Washington have divided and conquered the arab world just like they divided and conquered America. Just wait until all those involved realize that he (Bush&amp;amp;Co) really only work for the US Chamber of Commerce and certain select US Big Businesses. He doesn't work for any medium or small businesses as they think nor does he work for any religions as the white southern confederate Baptists and all the Catholics think. Bush works only for money and political power and as out of control as he is he will divide, conquer and destroy America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I know another thing for sure, George Bush is NOT, NOT, NOT the Christ no matter what he CLAIMS. Making that claim on four occasions reveals Bush for what he is. But each must judge for himself whether to follow him or not. He is not my pres and I choose to NOT follow him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some people may think he is the Christ like Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Tim Russert, Rupert Murdoch(telecarrier of porn) and all of News Corp and all of Fox News and all those other right wing talking heads and news mongers like Bob Novak, Judith Miller etc. ad nauseam. You know who they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regarding, again, the NAFTA Superhighway apparently this would be a limited access highway and would require some kind of special permission to use it. Methinks that is why Bush and his inner circle want 'a comprehensive immigration reform package', an illegal amnesty program and a guest wotker program. All of this is part and parcel of the same strategy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some opponents to the immigration component of this plan are James Sensenbrenner and many house republicans. There is no sense in my mentioning the Dems because they have almost no political power at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well if your appetite to know more is whetted just GOOGLE  Nafta Superhighway and you will learn about the end of America and our borders and control of travel. You won't believe it but please do believe it. This will all be done under the guise of, you guessed it I hope, 'National Security'. You will find many websites that can explain all of this much better than I.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More later&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115843671282984712?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115843671282984712'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115843671282984712'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-world-order-nafta-superhighwaythe.html' title='A New World Order /The Nafta Superhighway/The Pope'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115834528463908564</id><published>2006-09-15T13:49:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-15T14:53:24.026-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I  WANT  TO  KNOW</title><content type='html'>A new section in my blog will be called , I  WANT  TO  KNOW&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want a list, by state of just how much each state receives in government dollars aka taxpayer dollars under the Bush/Repub admin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For example, does theState of Virginia get the most government dollars, I think that entire state's economy must be supported by, monies of any and all kinds, US government dollars, ie. taxpayer dollars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just learned, as reported by Renae Merle of The Washington Post, that the military has contracts with two private 'headhunter' companies in Virginia to hire/procure teenagers (or maybe people of any age, I don't yet know) to get recruits from across the nation for service in the military. This is being done because the military recruiters are having such a lack of success in getting enough recruits even under their, now, greatly reduced level of requirements for recruits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For many more items about questionable/very questionable military recruiting please read an excellent article by Nick Turse of tomdispatch.com and you will be amazed/shocked/stunned. Many thanks to Nick for putting together a report showing a number of egregious recruiting acts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So there are some different issues involved in my question.&lt;br /&gt;1. A list of each state and exactly how much government money/taxpayer dollars of any and all kinds, it gets from the federal government. My guess is that the southern confederate states get the most and that is why they are so totally and endlessly supportive of Bush's middle east oil wars and hegemony wars. Until, of course, Bushie starts wars against south American countries like Venezuala and Bolivia et.al.&lt;br /&gt;2. Do the oil states and drug company states get exaggerated/excessive amounts of government/ taxpayer dollars.&lt;br /&gt;3. Do southern states get more government/taxpayer dollars and is that why they are so willing to give up/ give over their children for war(and death) purposes. In other words are southern children being sacrificed by their parents to obtain government dollars. Southerners claim it's a loyalty to the nation/government service issue. Southerners claim that it is because they are more patriotic than the rest of us, but I wonder if that is true. Could be some interesting sociological research is needed here or has it already been done, I don't know.&lt;br /&gt;4.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115834528463908564?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115834528463908564'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115834528463908564'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-want-to-know.html' title='I  WANT  TO  KNOW'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115824555604225521</id><published>2006-09-14T10:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-14T10:52:38.696-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Another Corrupt Election, It Seems That Way</title><content type='html'>Now you can see what I mean by evidence of Republican corruption (destruction of our democracy)  happening almost everyday. Alter  Net is carrying a report by Don Hazen demonstrating that the Maryland election system has joined the corrupt elections of Florida and Ohio, my state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Donna Edwards should have won the election against Albert Wynn(so called Dem, but really a DINO) by 60% instead as of 6pm on 9/13/06 she was losing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apparently what happened was that the same corrupt Repub voting strategies that were used in Ohio and Florida were employed to prevent Edwards from winning. These strategies included the use of Diebold voting machines, a Repub governor (same as in Florida and Ohio)  and a number of other strategies. But there is still some hope for Edwards because all the votes have not YET been counted. So much for HAVA, the Repub law written by a Repub(Hoekstra of Mich. I believe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the corruption of our American democracy by the Rethug party continues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Will the American people let it happen, it seems there is little 'we the people' can do to stop it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115824555604225521?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115824555604225521'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115824555604225521'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/another-corrupt-election-it-seems-that.html' title='Another Corrupt Election, It Seems That Way'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115816910096504533</id><published>2006-09-13T12:03:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-13T13:38:21.120-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The Catholic Church, complicit with the Repub Party and Violence</title><content type='html'>Weeelll, the corrupt GOP has a new strategy. The College Republicans are using a new hate and intolerance tactic. They have a 'catch the illegal immigrant' campaign and a 'shoot the democrat' campaign/fun activity whereby they use BB guns or paintball guns to shoot at large cardboard targets of prominent democrats like Sen. Hillary Clinton and others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the very same thing as Cornyn and other texas Rethugs  talking about understanding why people would want to shoot judges which they obviously endorse with this kind of statement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also the same as Ann Coulter suggesting that someone should poison  Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy because of his decisions and so that Bush could get another radical right wing Catholic justice on the SCOTUS and finally and completely swing the court to the radical right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And there you have it, all of this criminal behavior isa being encouraged by the Repub party and their accomplice the Catholic church. And that is why America is in so much difficulty around the world and in danger of the destruction of our American society. All due to the viciousness of the GOP and their handmaiden the Catholic church, my church. That is why I am so disgusted and fed up with my church which is no longer a church but rather is a radical right wing extremist terror group.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pope John Paul II and the current one Pope Benedict XVI are entirely responsible for this mindset because they endorse and support the Repub party and have done so since Reagan was pres. The Catholic church has taken it's nazi past history and once again revealed itself for what it is, a haven supporting criminal behavior by the Repug party who hate american democracy and WILL impose it's will upon ALL Americans and upon the entire world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic church and the white southern Baptists are jihadist fundamentalists both in no way follow the path taught to us ALL by Jesus Christ. These two religions have their own agenda and the violation of the constitution against the merging of church and state is a mainstay of that agenda. Both of these corrupt religions seek political power and dominance over 'we the people'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The headquarters of the Catholic church in America should move from the diocese of the north and take up residence in the deep south confederate states like Alabama just as EWTN the cable channel catholic network has done.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic church during the crusades, remember Pope Urban, invaded the middle east and killed muslims and jews. The Catholic church during the nazi Hitler regime protested the killing of jews almost not at all. The Catholic church under the Bush/Repug nazi-fascist neocon control over America(Cheney, Bolton etc) now seeks to destroy America, our laws and our citizens.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;George Bush has on four ocassions claimed to be 'chosen by God' which 'on a mission for God' and 'I speak to a higher Father' claiming to be the Christ. The bible clearly demonstrates that he is not the Christ. If he is not the Christ then he may be the antichrist. If he is the antichrist then the Catholic church may be his 'handmaiden' because it does his bidding or he does it's bidding, i'm not sure which is which.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More later&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115816910096504533?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115816910096504533'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115816910096504533'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/catholic-church-complicit-with-repub.html' title='The Catholic Church, complicit with the Repub Party and Violence'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115809522643904034</id><published>2006-09-12T15:19:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T17:07:06.566-04:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>I saw Ted Koppel's program on the Discovery channel. I have always had a high regard for Ted and the program was good except for the 'town hall' portion which was little more than the Republicans repeating Rove Republican talking points. I hope the Discovery channel runs it again if so I will watch it again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chris Shays said something of interest that slipped by too quickly. He is the first Repub that has said something that Rove and Bush would/will have chastised him for saying. He said something like, when a party gets back in power after being out of power for forty years they will do some wrong things. I think thats pretty close to what he said. It sounded like and admission of something. Is he running for office or has he suddenly developed a bit of conscience or a bit of backbone. Could he have actually done some thinking for himself. Maybe there is a bit of hope for the Repub party maybe some of THEM have a bit of conscience after all.  I was very impressed by Mr. Shays, people like him could save the Repub party before Bush et.al. destroy it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why am I concerned about saving the Repub party, well I will tell you. It goes to the concept that America is crippled by the fact that we have only a two party system and should one party get too much power (as the Repubs have) they become corrupted (as the Repubs have) and our American democracy gets damaged as a result. Hence the two party system and our 'system of checks and balances' which is essential to preserve our democracy suffers. America really needs a three, four or five party system so never can one party gain total control as the Repubs have now. So if Bush destroys the Repub party then we will have only the Democrats and that brings us back to the dangerous and dreaded one party system which is dangerous to our democractic system of government, and we are right back to the mess we now have. This kind of mess is less likely to occur from the democratic party because it is the party of the people and because it is not really a single party but unlike the Repubs is really a party of many different groups. But nevertheless the danger is there so America very much needs both political parties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that is why I am an independant because I support people and issues not political parties. Also I would like to see another political party for us independants. But until I see a redress of the balance of political power in America I will vote straight Democratic ticket in every election. Or until the Repubs destroy America which is a very real possibility to me. Or until the Repubs destroy the world which is also a very real and imminent possibility.  One more day of support from the Catholic or white southern Baptist religions could make that very thing happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These two religions are fundamentalist and we can all see what religious fundamentalism can result in. There is no room in this world for religious fundamentalists be it muslim jihadists or American jehadists like the Catholics or Baptists. All three groups must be stopped or they will kill many or destroy all of us in the name of god. small g intended because the real God is not a fundamentalist because He loves all His children equally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even though the Repubs have taken control of PBS there was a good program they aired yesterday on 9/11 which was very revealing, even though it revealed what we already know. Jim Lehrer moderated a round table of about eight or nine people. All but three were quite sophisticated possessing an in depth understanding of 9/11 and what was happening in America caused by the Repub party and Bush.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Three seemed to be Repub and Bush supporters and two of those were from confederate states, a women professor who taught in a southern state and a minister(Baptist) from a southern state who despite what everyone around them were saying nevertheless kept repeating the Bush, Cheney, Rove talking points. The third person was a college student or recent graduate who said that all his friends wanted to go to war and fight for America. He said that his friends thought the way Americans thought during WWII.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These three were to me just blind shallow simplistic thinkers. I would like to have heard more from all the participants especially the three who supported the war mindset. The war minister tried to dominate the group via agressive talking points and agressive and supressive comments but the group gently stuck to their beliefs and were not swayed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was terribly dissappointed as I always am by the war supporter mindset but was very encouraged and uplifted by the others who displayed a range and depth of understanding that is almost never heard anymore from people on TV, the talking heads never express those points of view. Almost all the MSM speaks to the Bush Repub points of view.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The black minister from New York was magnificent, he could preach to me on any sunday. I got tears in my eyes from his comments, he was without a doubt a true christian and he spoke the way I believe Jesus would have were He at that roundtable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The arab american comedian was very good as was the hispanic youth worker from LA who expressed so very well what he tries to teach the gang members who thought the same way as the minister from the Southern Baptist Convention, the female professor from Nashville and the college student. The hispanic youth worker had an amazing and clear depth of understanding of the realities of warfare and conflict and I knew the youth he worked with were in good hands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The woman from the theater/artistic background and the woman psychoanalyst/ ex-policewoman were also able to speak eloquently of the follies of war. I hope PBS runs that program again, I will check their website for it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enough for now&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115809522643904034?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115809522643904034'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115809522643904034'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-saw-ted-koppels-program-on-discovery.html' title=''/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115808846314637352</id><published>2006-09-12T13:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T15:18:09.530-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Bush and Repub Stupidity</title><content type='html'>Bush is asking Americans to give up their differences and unite to win the war in Iraq and the war against terrorism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all Bush, Rove and the Republican party divided and fractured America and our political system of participation by and for all.  Now the Repub party controls and dominates us all and has rendered us all completley helpless. Bush wants us to give up our differences but it was he and Rove that created and caused all our differences.  He and Rove are the very ones who have stopped us from participating in our government and they still do to this very day. So exactly what is that clown talking about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, it was Bush and the Republican party who caused and promoted the war in Iraq with their lying and deceit. More of which is revealed almost every week.  They manipulated America and the world into this war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Bush says he went to war because of 9/11 my answer is that he should have quietly and shortly after 9/11 occurred should have captured Osama bin Laden first. Then he should have gone after Saudi Arabia and the Saudi family who supported ObL. But the Bush family gets a lot from the Saudi family so there is the answer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ObL was surrounded and trapped by the CIA and/or American Special Forces who then asked Rumsfeld for troops to capture him. Rumsfeld refused...   America it's just that simple.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know the bullshit excuses Rummy gives and they are just Republican bullshit. I say Republican because Rummies bullshit excuses are accepted and supported by the entire Republican party, not one of them refuse to accept that opinion. That is what I call blind, knee jerk, lock step Republicanism first and America last or America not at all. These slimeballs are not Americans they just live here. They care not one whit for America or you or me. We have been completely excluded from participation in our country and our government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once we were ALL Americans. Now only the few are considered Americans and the rest of us are just some kind of garbage on the heap of what is left of our democratic way of life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have never hated anyone in my life not even the screwball who tried to run me off the road in a case of road rage nearly 36 yrs ago in Cleveland after a wonderful evening of concert listening to Andres Segovia at Severance Hall. Or the other screwball in Kansas who tried to run me off the road. But I hate the Bushies and the Republicans, God forgive me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These criminals will destroy America and who knows how much of the rest of the world if they are not stopped. So I blog and write 'letters to the editor' to do what I can to stop them and their kind of thinking from spreading like the cancer upon american that it is. I write 6-12 letters at least five days a week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now the NSA can put me on their watch list if I'm not already there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know this may sound strange to say but I think that the CIA may have done all that it could to stop Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bolton. I say that based on what Michael Isakoff and David Corn of Newsweek wrote in their book Hubris. They were on with Amy Goodman this morning. As a result of what they said it seems to me that the CIA sent Amb. Joe Wilson to Niger to get intel on the WMD situation.  Wilson found no 'yellow cake' and reported same. The Bushies went crazy because it did not conform to what they wanted. So they, with the help of Richard Armitage and many others outed Valerie Plame Wilson to punish Joe Wilson. She was the ;covert' agent in charge of investigating WMD, it was her job to do so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally I would throw the all the members of the Bushie conspiracy in jail. Including, Armitage, Novak, Russert, Miller, Woodward, Bush, Cheney, Rove, Bolton, Ashcroft, Cooper, Hughes, Miers, Gonzales, Libby, Luskin, Matalin and all the others who outed her or helped report and spread the related information/knowledge. Bush likes to punish and jail those who release secret government information including reporters so they should all go to jail.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What a bunch of jerks they all are. I'm most angry about the number of crooked catholics involved, but then the catholic church is knee deep in all of this political wretchedness. The number of catholics involved in all of this Bush Repub slime is almost unbelievably large.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Catholic church should get out and stay out of all american politics but what do they do they support the worst in american politics and journalism. The church must have stock in Fox/News Corp. Why does the church support porn and hide/cover up pedophile priests. That is all unforgivable. I am disgusted and terribly let down by my church. Maybe the church was always that way and I just did not know it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hitler, Nixon and Bush, what a threesome they make, all of a kind.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember, dance with the devil and he will own your soul.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lie down with dogs...   or Lie down with pigs...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115808846314637352?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115808846314637352'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115808846314637352'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/bush-and-repub-stupidity.html' title='Bush and Repub Stupidity'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115756235350696522</id><published>2006-09-06T12:35:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-06T13:12:09.870-04:00</updated><title type='text'>The End of Iraq, Quite possibly</title><content type='html'>That is an important question to ponder. Is there an Iraq or just shia domination and killing  of the country that was once called Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, Powell, Bolton, Rove, Morris, Ashcroft and the American theocrats (the Vatican and the white southern Baptists) ended the very existence of Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please don't blame the troops, this possible ending of the country once known as Iraq and it becoming a satellite of the US was done entirely at the very top echelons of the Bush admin, the Repub party, the American theocrats and the nazi-fascist neocons (like Cheney) for the sake of political ambition, world domination (A New World Order) and oil which is at the center of it all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just think only 59 million American voters put the Bush crime family in power and made all this happen. And these people call themselves christians, they are an abomination upon the other 241 million americans and the entire world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's all repeat at least 100 times,  'diplomacy only, war and killing never'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;St. Malachy, archbishop of Ireland and known to be an accurate and prophetic 'seer' predicted the end of the papacy of the catholic church and I can see that event as a very real possibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I may be a catholic but I am most assuredly not a fundamentalist. I most firmly believe in 'love thy God and love thy neighbor'. And that includes Muslims. I do abhor killing and jihadism whether it is done by Muslims OR Christians. Religious fundies think they KNOW the mind of God. That is sacrilige, heresy, blasphemy and idolatry(of self because only God knows His mind) even when it is done by so called religious leaders like the pope or the Vatican hierarchy in Rome.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our founding fathers insisted upon and really understood the dangers of mixing church and state. It was wise thinking then and is wise thinking now and a great admonition, now more than ever. But the Bushies are violating that admonition, clearly and most egregiously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May God please forgive us for what the Bushies have done and continue to do every day.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115756235350696522?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115756235350696522'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115756235350696522'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/09/end-of-iraq-quite-possibly.html' title='The End of Iraq, Quite possibly'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115280534420990144</id><published>2006-07-13T11:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-07-13T12:10:13.170-04:00</updated><title type='text'>7/13/06,  and even more killing, the PRO-LIFERS???</title><content type='html'>Dear All,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Israel has invaded Gaza and  350 people have been killed in a commuter train explosion in  Mumbai(Bombay) India.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This gets back to my conviction that when this Bush crime family administration does something that just doesn't make any sense it is because it only makes sense to and benefits a very few SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS like those who are constantly pushing for "A New World Order". This include the Bush nazi-fascist neocons, the Bilderbergers(who are dominated by some few world leaders and Big Businesses like the oil companies, Dutch, British and American) The Council On Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission, the Republican party which is completely out of control and corrupt with power, Yale and Princeton Universities who sit right in the middle of all this and the theocrats(Robertson, Falwell, Reed, Norquist, and the usual family values pro life groups).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only thing good about Yale is/was William Sloan Coffin. The only thing good about Princeton is the Institute For Advanced Physics(Albert Einstein et.al.). So many arrogant elitists like the Bushs' and Samuel Alito have come from these schools and the list of people is very, very long.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder how much of this has been directly caused by George Bush and his cabal of neocons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of it has been indirectly caused by George and his Republican neocon cabal. They continue to keep the world military and terror tensions boiling. Their constant stirring of the pot contributes/ causes this to go on and on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The oil industry, US businesses and military/industrial/Republican/neocon complex must be very pleased and happy with this latest turn of events.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The American theocrats, Baptist and Catholic Church, my church, hierarchy that keeps the Republican party in power are equally and directly complicit in this ongoing never ending and sickening state of world affairs. These two fundamentalist religions have really lost their way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that is what comes from mixing politics and religion, intolerance and hate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only people that can stop this are the red state voters who put these criminals in power , twice. And they just don't seem to care, so much for those who CLAIM to be PRO-LIFERS. I guess they really under their skin are PRO-KILLERS.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115280534420990144?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115280534420990144'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115280534420990144'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/07/71306-and-even-more-killing-pro-lifers.html' title='7/13/06,  and even more killing, the PRO-LIFERS???'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115263714544338239</id><published>2006-07-11T11:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-07-11T13:27:24.510-04:00</updated><title type='text'>7/11, Is life just a throw of the dice, it seems so.</title><content type='html'>Living in Ohio I cannot vote for Marcy Winograd but if I lived in California I would vote for her without hesitation. Though I am an independant swing voter, became during the Vietnam war, Marcy most closely fits most of my beliefs about America and the world, and American politics which are so corrupt due to the Repub party, hate, fear and war mongering and the fracturing of our society for their own selfish political agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jane Harmon is supposed to be a Dem but she like Joe Lieberman is really a DINO, democrat in name only. They both totally support George Bush and his campaign of destruction in and for America through his allegiance to the nazi-fascist neocon agenda. The 59 million voters who put Bush in office twice also support this agenda, while the remaining 241 million of us Americans have been stripped of all political power and have no say in our government due to, among other things the end of our system of 'Checks and Balances'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The word cowboy is almost a revered word in our American history, and certainly to me, but George Bush has slimed that word and it's cache has been at least dirtied. One of the MSM just recently used the term "Cowboy Politics" (I wish I could remember which one to provide proper attribution)  whomever it was really turned/coined a beautiful phrase and deserves proper attribution. My hat is off to them in appreciative salute to their journalistic skill. I wish I had thought of that phrase but I claim no credit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As John Dean says in his book these Bushie neocons have a cowboy mentality going on in their heads. My thinking is that this cowboy mentality is coupled with their sociopathy so they have a simple, as Reagan the sleeping president did, black and white view of everything (us against them, your for us or against us, bring 'em on etc.etc) and see only themselves as the good guys while the rest of us who do not exactly agree with everything they think are ALL wrong and our viewpoint is of no merit whatsoever. So they, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Rice, Gonzales and most of the Republicans in office and in our country just dismiss us and all of our thinking. We are just inconsequential to their highly biased, self serving,  one sided,  blind,  lock step thinking. I get sick of hearing Hatch, Luger, Hagel, Spector, Graham etc. ad nauseam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These Republicans who have stolen and ended our American democracy have turned Americans against each other and 59 million of them (red voters) control and dominate 241 million of the rest of us. This extreme right wing radicalism is tearing America apart and causing a 'war cloud' to grow and engulf the entire world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course these hateful people are aided and abetted by two fundamentalist religions, the Baptists and the Catholics, my religion I am ashamed to admit.  I don't say too much about the Baptists because I am not one but I am a Catholic and so criticise them much more. One of the hallmarks of fundamentalist religions is there intolerance of others and this characteristic is becoming much more vehement in both religions especially since Bush&amp;amp;Co. got into/ stole the presidency with the help of the Supreme Court and corrupt elections in Ohio and Florida.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These two religions and the Bush/ Repub/ neocons now have so much power in America and around the world in so many other countries that at present I see absolutely no hope for America or the world. They are committed to war and no one can stop them. They are constantly raising war fervor everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are a few counter vailing counter balancing forces namely, the south American countries and China and Russia. Mexico could have been such a force if Mr. Lopez Obrador had won the presidency. But Dick Morris, now a vicious Republican party strategist helped Calderon come from way behind and take the election from Obrador by using the very same filthy tactics that the Repubs used to put Bush in office.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obrador would have stood up for the poor/average people of Mexico bringing about a more leftist and democratic form of government by, for and of the people as we used to have in America. But once again the right wing republican like interests of the wealthy will rule Mexico and thus it will be of no help to the poor/average people in our country. Calderon like Harper in Canada will just be more support for the Bushies and the Repubs in America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still there is some hope in the south american countries who have democratically elected leftist leaning governments who seem to want to stand up for their own people and against Bushism and American corporatocracy. These south american countries along with the governments of Russia and China may be able to counter the power of the Bush crime family and keep the world from more wars. Condi Rice and John Bolton are working hard to neutralize these other governments but so far have not succeeded. I wish those of us who are against more war and killing could depend on the support of the governments of the EU but it seems that some or maybe many have already been compromised by Rice, Bolton, Powell and Bush.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could never have imagined that one day I would be looking for forces that might counter balance against those of America but our country under the Bush crime family (Repubs, neocons and theocrats) control are a seemingly unending threat to our God given world and what little peace there is. How are any of us going to survive the hate and intolerance of the Bush war machine. They will be in office for two and a half more years so I just keep on praying that God will somehow intercede on behalf of all of us, His children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When McCain and Jeb Bush get the presidency there will be another eight years of fear you all must somehow live through. Between my diabetes and myasthenia gravis and poor medical care I expect to be dead before  Bush is out of office or shortly thereafter and I look forward to that sweet release from the horrors of this  world so full of war,  killing and religious intolerance in America which just keeps feeding this endless and sickening stupidity.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18872835-115263714544338239?l=tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115263714544338239'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18872835/posts/default/115263714544338239'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://tbobthoughtsmore.blogspot.com/2006/07/711-is-life-just-throw-of-dice-it.html' title='7/11, Is life just a throw of the dice, it seems so.'/><author><name>t bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16213545105756284742</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18872835.post-115194327811741724</id><published>2006-07-03T10:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2006-09-12T13:34:52.510-04:00</updated><title type='text'>America, Destroyed From Within?</title><content type='html'>I am convinced that America will be destroyed from within not by outside forces such as terrorism. The force from within that will destroy America is the cabal that currently runs our country and the longer they are in office the more damage they do to the fabric and fouindational elements of our society. Bush, Cheney, Rove and the Republican party now has Americans hating each other. They are dissolving the glue that holds the fabric of our society together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is an 'axis of evil' within America that is frightening in the power it holds which is so great that this axis is easily able to destroy our country. This 'axis of evil' is comprised of the  Bush admin, the Republican party, Big Business, the wealthy, the nazi-fascist neocons and the Theocrats.These groups are completely self serving, anti American, completely unpatriotic, corrupt and criminal. Their allegiance is not to America and it's citizens but only to themselves and their absolutely endless pursuit of money and political power. These people/groups will do anything and everything to maintain their stranglehold on our country and use it to achieve their narrow agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Theocrats who claim to be christians are anything but. Christians are those who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and the laws of God The Father and Creator of all things. The Theocrats constantly spew out hate and intolerance, Falwell and Robertson et.al. The Theocrats are the fundamentalist religions in America that support George Bush and the Republican party with their agenda of hate mongering, fear mongering and war mongering. No true christian could ever support the egregious and unfounded killing of others, the neglect of the needs of American citizens and the needs of American families. Yet that is exactly what these groups do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These fundamentalist religions are led primarily by the Catholic Church, my religion which I am ashamed to admit and the white southern Baptists. They have gained and hold on to political power by the use of strategies which to paraphrase Al Franken include "fears, smears and queers". They have divided America into two camps and are fracturing our society. These Bushie, Repub, Theocrats create fear and hate and  direct it at all those in America who do not agree exactly with their exact, specific, precise viewpoint on all things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They have no respect for the rights and beliefs of others. Anyone who does not exactly follow their 'party line' is considered to be unchristian or unamerican and therefore must be controlled by them. These people claim to 'know the mind of God'. I know they do not because no human being in this life or the next will ever know the mind of God because only God knows His own mind and we humans are and never will be God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Neither the Pope, nor the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, nor the Baptists nor George Bush will ever know the mind of God. Anyone who claims to know the mind of God is guilty of heresy, blasphemy and sacrilege. These people have no humility with respect to God or to other human beings. They vilify everyone just as Hitler, a Catholic, did before/during WWII when he vilified the Jews and created the holocaust which I view as Hell/Satan on earth. The slaughter of six million Jews is completely SATANIC. The Theocrats are moving in that direction by vilifying gays, women seeking abortions, muslims and ALL Americans who do not CONFORM exactly to the Republican and Bush, Cheney, Rove agenda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What will the Republican party and the aforementioned groups think of to maintain and further ADVANCE their agenda to the next level. May God save us all for what they are about to do or just maybe God will condemn us all for standing by while they ADVANCE THEIR AGENDA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The US Conference of Catholic Bishops will say that Bishop Wilton Gregory, it's president, wrote a letter to Bush explaining their reservations about the Iraq war, dated Sept. 13, 2002. This letter is very well reasoned and clearly expresses serious reservations about war against Iraq. BUT, this letter does not go nearly far enough because the Catholic church and the hierarchy in the Vatican still totally support and endorse the Republican party and it's agenda and have done so since Reagan became president. Pope John Paul II aligned the Catholic church with the Republican party and Pope Benedict XVI still to this day maintains this alignment. The results of this alliance has allowed Reagan, Bush I and Bush II to continue on a strategy of damage, constant erosion and on going destruction of democracy in america and around the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is now FOUR YEARS later to the day and this destruction is still taking place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This situation is the same as during WWII when  Pope Pius X, I think it was, protested all most not at all the killing of six million jews during the holocaust. Due to entirely insufficient protest then and actual support now the Catholic church was surrendering to, and maybe even complicit in, the events of those times and and is surely completely guilty in the events that are taking place now. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can easily see that the predictions of St. Malachy, an archbishop of Ireland could come true. He is known to have been an accurate'seer'.  He predicted the end of the papacy and those who study this prediction feel that Pope Benedict XVI is pope number 111 and that there will be one more pope after BenedictXVI. This could be a warning that the Catholic Church heirarchy in Rome must mend it's ways and seek another path, a true path, to follow the teachings of the true Christ, not George Bush despite his claims, and find a different path, a true path to God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bush wants to use nuclear weapons on Iran and thats a slaughter, plain and simple which he has no right to do  because they are not attacking us with nuclear weapons. In fact Prof. Pape, of the Univ. of Chicago,  has clear sociological research to show that no Iranian has ever attacked us. His research shows many things that seem to refute the claims and endless daily protestations of the Republican axis of evil, Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld and John Bolton et.al. ad nauseam. These scum of american politics and governmental power have gone far astray with their absolute power over America.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Absolutely power corrupts, absolutely. That is why our constitution was written embodying a 'SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES'. I am a constitutional and fiscal conservative. But the Bushies and the Republican party is slowly eroding our constitution, just look at what these criminals have accomplished in only five and a half years. What will they do in the next two and one half years. May the saints preserve us all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I heard recently that America has five hundred nuclear weapons and Bush wants to build a new generation of them. He, the Republicans, the nazi-fascist neocons and the theocrats are threatening the entire 
